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Re: Moisture


Butch,
As long as the rhizome remains above the water line, you cannot have too
much water. The roots grew out of my pots into the trays and some were as
much as 4 feet long at the end of the trial. They grow wherever there us
water. G.
W. George Schmid
Hosta Hill - Tucker Georgia USA
Zone 7a - 1188 feet AMSL
84-12'-30" West_33-51' North
Outgoing e-mail virus checked by NAV
----- Original Message -----
From: "butch ragland" <wilddog_202@yahoo.com>
To: <hosta-open@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 2:33 PM
Subject: Moisture


> George,
>
> I had actually begun with plants in pots when I first
> transplanted the plants I had in tc. In an effort to
> get consistant water to these plants just out of
> tubes. I potted, then sat them in a tray without holes
> and never noticed any problem with too much water. I
> later went outside in 4" pots in trays with constant
> water. In constant water the fertilizer was different
> so I mixed about 1/32 the recommended application
> everytime I watered. Outside the rain took care of
> salt buildup from constant water. Inside I changed the
> water weekly and tried to use rainwater when I could.
>
> Next came the pots that I floated in my water feature
> 24/7/365 for 3 years to look for the outside limits of
> water which I never found.
>
> Then I planted a pot, without holes, under plants in
> the ground that acted as a constant water source.
> When I dug this up I found that some roots had entered
> the pot of water while others moved into the ground. I
> assumed that the plant found whatever it needed,
> water, humus, etc.
>
> Let me give you a free good source of water. Either
> your sump pump or air conditioner condensate. I also
> set up a little bog garden from the air conditioner
> water. I did this at the plant with a window unit that
> driped into the bog. Once again the hosta did very
> well with this constant water.
>
> The assumption from the start was that hosta can not
> have too much water. I've not been able to prove the
> negative. At this point if I found too much water as a
> problem I would first eliminate salt buildup before
> believing it was too much water.
>
> In this continuing investigation of the effect of
> water on hosta I'm working on another situation that
> I'll report on in a year or so.
>
>
> --- "W. George Schmid" <hostahill@Bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Butch,
> > You are right on.
> > A genus that gets between 70 and 110 inches of
> > water, most of it in
> > August/September has to have WATER during our dry
> > summers. No matter species
> > or cultivars. I did a similar experiment in the
> > 1980s and put a number of
> > pots in 1' x 2' seed trays without holes and kept
> > these full of water. The
> > sister plants were in the ground not watered in
> > summer. You should have seen
> > the difference in growth rates. Your observations
> > hit the nail on the head:
> > It is not temperature, but the lack of water during
> > the summer growth cycle
> > that results in smaller plants. 1999-2002 were
> > drought summers in Georgia.
> > Many hostas not watered went heat (summer) dormant,
> > reduced their size
> > (trying to survive) and finally croaked. I lost over
> > 100 of them (could not
> > water due to restrictions). You are right! George
> >
> > W. George Schmid
> > Hosta Hill - Tucker Georgia USA
> > Zone 7a - 1188 feet AMSL
> > 84-12'-30" West_33-51' North
> > Outgoing e-mail virus checked by NAV
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "butch ragland" <wilddog_202@yahoo.com>
> > To: <hosta-open@hort.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: Winter Dormancy
> >
> >
> > > George let me change to moisture. While I did not
> > set
> > > this up in a pure scientific way I did enough work
> > to
> > > draw strong conclusions.
> > >
> > > I suspended potted hosta in water 24-7 365 for 3
> > years
> > > in full sun. They did very well and showed little
> > > effect from the sun which normally causes leaf
> > > problems in July and August.
> > >
> > > I have come to believe that water is the single
> > most
> > > important factor in Hosta culture. The problem
> > that
> > > many growers do not understand about water with
> > plants
> > > is consistancy. They are like babies who will
> > starve
> > > in hurry without water. During hot windy summer
> > days
> > > they may require daily watering to get near
> > results
> > > that hobby gardeners want.
> > >
> > > --- "W. George " <hostahill@Bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hostas do fine in the South given enough summer
> > > > moisture.
> > >
> > > >But given plenty of moisture in late summer in
> > > southern regions seems to make up for the shorter
> > > winter cooling periods and earlier soil warm-up.
> > Up
> > > north they may have enough "chilling" but if they
> > dry
> > > out during the critical root growth period they
> > suffer
> > > too.
> > >
> > > =====
> > > Butch Ragland
> > > Conflict is as addictive as
> > > cocaine, alcohol, cigarettes,etc
> > > I'm sorry to report that
> > > cooperation is not
> > >
> > >
> >
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