Re: hybrids and correction


Joe why don't you and Ben take this pissing contest off line.

At 11:10 PM 10/20/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Ben:
>
>>By the way I made a mistake yesterday, I investigated the DNA of 
>>seedlings of Amber Tiara x Minuteman not ventricosa x Minuteman.
>
>Unless Minuteman is a tetraploid I doubt that you can distinguish the 
>difference between the DNA content of Amber tiara and Minuteman using 
>a flow cytometer.  To say that the seedlings are NOT hybrids because 
>the seedling have the DNA content of the pod parent is absolute BAD 
>science at its worse.  There is so little difference in the DNA 
>content of different hosta species that I doubt that you can actually 
>measure the difference with the CRUDE method you are using.  A flow 
>cytometer is useful for seperating diploids, triploids and 
>tetrapoloids, but NOT for the purposes you are using it for.  Ben, you 
>have already amply demonstrated that you know nothing about botany; 
>why do you insist in continuing to demonstrating you don't know 
>anything about botany?
>
>If you are going to make claims like this, then please give us the 
>actual figures for the DNA content of the parents and the seedlings 
>along with the standard deviation of the results.  Did you even 
>actually do the measurements?  Maybe that is why you won't give us any 
>figures!
>
>Ben, you may fool some of the people on this robin, but there are some 
>of us on this robin who do actually know something about botany and 
>hostas and how to do GOOD science and you aren't going to fool us.  
>It's time for you, Ben, to put up or shut up!  
>
>Joe Halinar
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Butch Ragland So. Indiana zone 5

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