Hi all, Just a nice message: My Sarcocaulon vanderietiae today has opened her first flower of the year. It is white and fivesided symmetrical (the succulent Sarcs share that with the Geraniums) and so summer REALLY started today for me in Holland! -- Mimy Sluiter <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/9046/index.html> m*@wxs.nl ps - Dale: will write a note re. this list in the Dutch Pel&Ger societies magazine - hope more Dutch people join that are on line. We have a nice society in the Netherlands with a couple of hundred of members and a quarterly magazine, called "P&G Nieuws".