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RE: Pruning- Ancestor roses

Ray and list,

I don't know how many are on this list. Perhaps the owner (Duncan)
might be reading and let us know. I'd be curious. This list has the
least amount of mail of any list I've been on. (though it's my
favorite subject) Sometimes you hear nothing for weeks. 

Hey, we have ancestor roses in common.  This spring I planted,
rootings of 4 roses that my dad has been raising; one that my
grandmother found at her first married home; one that my
grandmother's aunt owned; one my great uncle owned; and one that my
great, great grandfather may have gotten from his mother-in-law, and
brought with him to Oregon (farthest west you can go in the US) in
the late 1800's. This one I have identified as Apothecary Rose from
the 12th Century. My father has been computer wise for about 10
years, I just joined the e-mail ranks this year. My love of old roses
started about 7 years ago, and just this year I was able put in my
old and English rose garden.  (2 years of dreaming/moving and
building of new home) I now have over 75 roses and 9 are from my
ancestors, 3 from trades on the internet coming from Illinois and
Kentucky.

> What type of roses?: Colourful ones! 

Best kind. Are they fragrant ? Repeat blooming ?  I wonder how long
the old, once blooming roses would bloom in your continuous climate.
Longer than here and just once ?  Anyone know ? (I'm still a beginner
too.)

Do you have many of your father's and grandfather's roses ?
Does he cultivate or propagate any of his own roses ?

Portland roses were one of the first ''groupings'' of roses that were
cultivated (early to mid 1800's) to repeat. I understand that their
blooms have a unique way of sitting atop a compact bush. Like most
old roses, they had a longer list of original varieties than are not
available today. They are very fragrant and generally of a smaller
bush. I have the two most common, Comte de Chambord (pink with
delightful quartering) and Jacques Cartier (large pink that quarters
and has a cute green eye). I've been told they don't like all this
rain.  
    
I would be interested in others (on the list) growing Portland roses.

Sincerely,       
Carleen Rosenlund of Rainier, Oregon -USDA-8
Sweetbriar - Keeper of Sheep & Old Roses
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> From: Ray Cooper <raycooper@xtra.co.nz>
> To: rose-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: Pruning
> Date: Saturday, July 25, 1998 2:53 PM
> 
> rosenlund wrote:
> > 
> > Wecome to the list, Ray.
> 
> Thankyou! Does anyone have any idea approx. how many are on the
list?
> > 
> > I hear that the Portland roses do very well in New Zealand,
though I
> > have no idea which area. What kind of roses are you growing ? How
> > cold does it get in you area ? 
> 
> Climate: We are in celcius, so I have got the summer comparison
from my
> tropical fish tank... In summer, it would rarely get above 86f in
this
> area of New Zealand. In winter, it is usually around 44f in the day
and
> very occassionally we get a frost at night.
> I am a thrid generation rose grower. (Father and grandfather). The
soil
> here is very 'clayee' (is there such a word?). My dad on the other
hand
> lives 10 minutes away near the sea and has very sandy soil under
his
> roses. He has just started with email. I help him with the internet
and
> he helps me with roses.
> What type of roses?: Colourful ones! Sorry, seriously, I am such a
> beginner that I thought all roses would climatise themselves
anywhere.
> So I'll have to find that out. What are Portland roses?
> (As mentioned earlier... please excuse my ignorance) I'm sure I'll
learn
> fast from you guys though.
> You'll also notice the NZ spelling with some words...
> Ray Cooper
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