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Roses in Houston, TX -- Noisettes? -Reply


I realize Oregon is completely different than
Texas, but if it is any help to you I can tell you
about my experiences growing a few of the
hybrid musks.  

Lavender Lassie gets full sun and has a tiny bit
of black spot occasionally.  Moonlight is grown
in DRY shade under a plum tree, as is Cornelia.
 They get a little morning and some late
afternoon soon.  They are both thriving and
have absolutely no disease, ever.  Penelope is in
half shade/sun and is thriving as well, also no
disease problems.  Prosperity is in full sun on a
slope and does excellently (no disease).  

The books say some of their best show is in the
fall and that has proven true in my climate. 
Their only strike is almost no fragrance (except
Lavender Lassie nicely fragrant -- which is not
lavender, but a beautiful pink and I suppose on
the lavender side of that).

Hope that is of some use to you.
>>> "William M. Groth" <groth@rice.edu>
06/09/98 10:22am >>>
I am searching for additional varieties of roses
to put in my gardens over
the 
next year or two at my house.  There are two
classes of roses I am interested 
in and I will address each separately.  The first
is the Noisette.  This rose 
class which has its origins in the US ca. 1811
has characteristics which seem 
well suited for the hot and humid climate here
in Houston TX (zone 9a Upper 
Texas Gulf Coast). There are 6 varieties which I
would like to hear some 
comments on.  Here they are:

	1. La Biche (1832)
	2. Frazer's Pink Musk (found Noisette)
	3. Al Moise (found Tea-Noisette)
	4. Natchitoches Noisette (found)
	5. Deschamps (1877)
	6. Fellenberg (prior to 1835)

These are the varieties I have a principal
interest in for which I have very 
little information.  There are others which I am
interested in but I already
have adequate descriptions and evaluations (for
now).  The others that I am 
considering are Blush Noisette, Lamarque,
Jaune Deprez (for short) and 
Crepuscule.

My next question will be on Hybrid Musks
which might thrive in Houston.
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       William M. Groth
       groth@ruf.rice.edu
       Senior Staff Auditor
       Internal Audit Department
       phone: (713) 527-8101 ext.3759
	fax:  (713) 285-5927
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