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Re: New Rose beds -Reply -Reply

I can't comment one way or the other, being
neither an old rosarian, scientist or even as an
extremely knowledgeable gardener.  They do
have a whole page about this in Heirloom's
catalogue and I assume its from their
experience.  I would love to know what you are
saying is true, it sure is a pain in the patukey to
remove the soil.  I don't mean to be
argumentative, I just wouldn't want to find out
the hard way!  I've heard so many nongardeners
even express the observation that their roses 
die when they plant it where another one was
(which could be poor gardening practices to
begin with!).

The observation that they are heavy feeders
and have depleted the soil surely makes sense. 
And you'd think if we can send a man to the
moon, they would be able to detect some virus
or bacteria in the soil.  Anyone else out there
have an comments/thoughts?

>>> "Dave Amorde"
<dave_amorde@msn.com> 05/27/98 09:40am
>>>

The condition referred to as "Specific Replant
Desease" is a fallacy! There
is no known soil borne organism that causes
such problems. Unfortunately,
some older texts (and older rosarians!) continue
to perpetuate this myth.
Consider this: Commercial rose growers have
been growing new roses in old
beds for years, as have botanical gardens. What
is important is that organic
matter be added on a regular basis (not just
when replanting,) and good
gardening practices be maintained. It is a good
idea to have soil samples
from your garden tested before planting, and
every five years thereafter, to
screen for mineral deficiencies.

Dave Amorde
dave_amorde@msn.com


-----Original Message-----
From: SUSAN SAXTON <SS@Schwabe.com>
To: rose-list@eskimo.com
<rose-list@eskimo.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: New Rose beds -Reply


>It's actually more than that -- there is some
>"mysterious" rose virus that seems to carry
over
>in the soil.  You should remove as much of
the
>soil as possible when planting a rose in the
>same place as another one was.  I try to
remove
>at least 2 x 2 or more.
>
>>>> <rcdavis@reach.net> 05/27/98 06:27am
>>>>
>At 11:33 AM 5/26/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>I have never heard that. I can't image why.
>>Anyone have a clue ?
>>Perhaps because of settling of new soil.
>>Guess I could have waited for the rain to
>>press it down... Not...
>
>I have heard however, that you shouldn't
plant
>roses in old beds where
>roses have grown before.  This is due to the
fact
>that roses are very heavy
>feeders, and the soil would be depleated of
vital
>nutrients.
>
>Caroline
>
>
>
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