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RE: No blooms!!

Oh, good one Susan, (she makes wonderful assorted jams and pickles.) 

I wasn't aware these were bred in the South and good in very 
warm areas. (I love learning something new about roses.) 

Noisettes: Heirloom Old Garden Roses list 6 this year. Most get tall
and grow like ramblers. 

Yes, 'Champney's Pink Cluster'-but not listed in HOGR catalogue this
year. Recall seeing it in there, years before. (Looking threw my old
HOGR catologues and it was last listed in 92-93 catalogue.)  By the
way, sometimes if you call and ask, they still have roses that are no
longer listed in the current catologue. 

'Blush Noisette'; I've seen pictures and it is beautiful. Hardy to 
zones 7-10.  It produces double, soft pink blooms in clusters, 
on a bush of good dark foliage, continuous blooming 6-8 feet tall 
and 4 feet wide. Tolerates shade. From 1700's. Sounds wonderful.

'Crepuscule' has double gold ruffled petals, with rich gold centers,
wonderful perfume. (Still taking this from Heirloom's wonderful
catalogue.) Does like to climb, but can be grown as a "most handsome
of all shrubs", "Those living in warmer climates should not miss out
on this beauty." Continual blooming. 7 feet as a shrub, 10-12 feet as
a climber. 1904.

(That's page 57 in this year's catalogue.)

Both sound yummy. Hope that helps.

Sincerely,       
Carleen Rosenlund of Rainier, Oregon -USDA-8
Sweetbriar - Keeper of Sheep & Old Roses
  
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> From: SUSAN SAXTON <SS@Schwabe.com>

> Hi Mia,
> 
> I was going to suggest to you to check out the
> roses that were bred in South Carolina, US -- bred
> somewhere maybe similar to your climate, hot, dry,
> humid.  But for the life of me I can't think of the rose
> classification name.  I'm at work, catalogueless!!! 
> Someone out there can help me out (ahem, like
> maybe you Carleen ;-) ).  They're mentioned in
> Heirloom's catalogue, only about 7-8 roses in the
> class, but one of them may be something like
> Champlain's Pink Cluster?  Sorry, I've been out of
> the garden mode a few months and into the
> cooking mode.  Only so much room in the head.
> 
> Susan Saxton
> For mine is just a little old-fashioned garden where
> the flowers come together to praise the Lord and
> teach all who look upon them to do likewise.
> Celia Thaxter
> 1835-1894
> _____________
> Rose do well here as long as they get plenty of sun
> and water.Where I live
> in Brisbane, which is a northern state,It is a little
> more difficult than in
> somewhere like Melbourne Where I am originally
> from.Its much warmer here and
> more humid.I have trouble with blackspot and I have
> powdery mildew only on
> my Mal Maison.But it is quite severe.I will try the
> spray from Carleen.
> It never freezes here!!!I think our climate is like
> Florida.The
> aforementioned Mal Maison has tons of blooms on
> it.I wish I had a scanner,
> so I could show you all!!
> Bye for now
> Mia
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SUSAN SAXTON
> [S*@Schwabe.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 4 November 1998 3:45
> > To: rose-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: No blooms!! -Reply
> >
> >
> > Welcome to the list Mia, good to hear from those
> of
> > you who are nearer to spring than we are in the
> US!
> >
> > I don't have the answer to question about your
> > non-blooming Charles Austin.  But I share your
> love
> > of the old roses and English roses.  Do they
> > normally do well in your climate?  Roses love
> water,
> > and I always picture Australia pretty dry...
> >
> > Water and fertilizer works wonders for nearly
> > everything.  Start a regular fertilizing regime after
> > your last possible freeze date (does it freeze at
> all
> > where you are?).
> >
> > I bet with spring coming on where you are, you've
> > got the garden fever!  We're all slowing down
> > "topside" in the US, but I live in a fairly mild area
> > and still have many roses blooming.  The hybrid
> > musks, particularly, thrive in this cool fall weather.
> >
> > Enjoy your spring!
> >
> > Susan Saxton
> > For mine is just a little old-fashioned garden
> where
> > the flowers come together to praise the Lord and
> > teach all who look upon them to do likewise.
> > Celia Thaxter
> > 1835-1894
> > _______________
> > Could anyone help me with a yellow Charles
> Austin
> > which
> > has never bloomed? I moved it this year and it is
> > very healthy, but no
> > flowers.In its previous possie it was sending long
> > canes up, but not
> > anymore.It is about 2 years old.My favourite roses
> > are old fashioned and
> > David Austins.We have a climbing Souvenir De
> La
> > Malmaison near our front
> > tap, which is powering on in its second year, after
> > hardly blooming in its
> > first.Has anyone else found that?
> > Anyway, bye for now
> > Mia
> >
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