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RE: Roses for a warmer climate

Thankyou Carleen, you truly are a wealth of information!
Im almost afraid to fiddle around with 'Cymbeline', but things cant get much
worse than they are now." Omar Khayam" has really got me interested.Not to
much because it is a beautiful specimen( which it may well be)but because
its difficult to obtain and doesnt it sound mysterious? Fancy the seeds
being gathered from his tomb? Spooky.
Has anyone ever visited Josephines gardens in MalMaison? I wonder what they
look like these days,Nothing like they did in her time Im sure.I would love
to go there,I think I could close my eyes and imagine what it must have been
like.
I was thinking of picking a few blooms and pressing them for cards.Does
anyone know the best way to acheive a good result?I found a very old one the
other day, it fell out of a book I havent opened for years and it was
perfect.It got me to thinking again.Do any of you ever press them and send
different varieties to each other?That would be fun, wouldnt it? A lovely
keepsake.
Bye for now
Mia

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rosenlund [r*@transport.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 1998 12:57
> To: Rose-List
> Subject: RE: Roses for a warmer climate
>
>
> > From: Mia
>
> >I will try self-pegging 'cymbeline'.I have never done
> >this before,have you? Seen plenty of pics of
> > it done.Do you think it will increase the blooms?
>
> I have not yet tryed it, but I've heard that it does increase the
> blooms. Do let us know how you did it and what it does for the
> blooms, will ya !
>
> > I saw a photo of a rose called 'Omar Khayam' in a book a few years
> ago, but
> > have never been able to get it.Do you know it? I think its a
> damask.It has
> > an unusual look, like a bunch of tissues.
>
> At first I was thinking it was the one they harvest for rose waters
> and oils, but NO, that's Kazanlik. I'm not familiar with Omar Khayam.
>
>
> One book "_Gardening with Old Roses_" by John Scarman  (full of
> awesome photos and more pictures of old roses with companion plants).
>  It just quickly say's, " Edward Fizgerald, translator of the
> Rubaiyat of Omar Kyayyam, gather seeds from the poet's tomb in
> Naspipur. The seed was sown on Fitzgerald's tomb, giving rise to this
> seedling. A small shrub with pale pink, fragrant flowers. Introduced
> in UK, 1893. 3 1/2 x 3 1/2 feet."  And yes, a Damask.
>
> Peter Beales book "_Classic Roses_"  (Doesn't this book list EVERY
> rose ?) also has a picture, and both books show it as a rather
> "scuffy" looking bloom, with a good size button eye, and it appears
> to have long sepals.
>
> Neither HOGR, or ARE carry it in their catalogues.
>
> I did find it listed in Vintage Gardens "Complete Catalogue" (no
> pictures, but well over 2000 of discriptions of various roses) and
> this rose was not listed their "Availablity (about 400 that have been
> chosen and propagated for sale)  List for Spring of 1998".  They too
> comment that this rose is "odd" and "A strange and gawky grower that
> tends to stay low and sprawling."   They will also progagate by
> customer request.
>
> Vintage Gardens
> 2833 Old Gravenstein Hwy.South
> Sebastopol, CA 95472
> 707-829-2035
>
> Sincerely,
> Carleen Rosenlund of Rainier, Oregon -USDA-8
> Sweetbriar - Keeper of Sheep & Old Roses
>
>
>
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