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RE: Pegging Down Old Roses -LONG

> From: Mia 
> Carleen, what a wonderful site! So much information, it will take
me hours
> to get through it all.I love the pics too.Thanks so much, how are
things
> going?
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Hi Mia,

Thought about posting ya private, but since this is all rose talk, I
thought the slow list might enjoy it. If any of you don't want to
read long stories about Old Roses, delete now.

Yes, a lovely site and now expanded and selling Old, Own-root roses. 
Sorry, I see that they don't sell out of the US, YET.  They also sell
perennials, haven't even started that "look-see" yet.  I would be
interested in 'Armide' an Alba listed on that site. 

Wonder how much difference there is from Mme.Hardy, Mme.Plantier,
Mme.Zoetmans and this Armide ?  I have a graphed Mme.Plantier and my
great grandma's "Sophie Rose" (own-root) my aunt is sure is also
Mme.Plantier. Yes, they look very much alike,  but so does this
Armide picture.

Read a tid-bit on Mme.Plantier (lovely rose by the way, one of my
favorites) from the book, "_Rose Gardening_" by The American Garden
Guides (?)  Anyhow, it say's, "Was one of the most popular white
roses of the 1890's, often used then as a hedge in formal gardens and
for cemetery plantings."  

This is how our family found her, in an old cemetery, barely alive on
great grandma's grave who died in 1909.  My aunt propagated cuttings,
for fear that this abandoned one was dying. Now at least a half a
dozen other mature roses are growing in our families gardens and the
original is now thriving on the grave. Much to aunt's credit, who
also alured me to the charm of the Old Roses.

By the way, I just stuck a cutting of the graphed one right into the
soil near the Mother plant's feet, and it took off.  It's little and
about 5 months old. Didn't use rooting harmone or a covering. Must be
an easy one to propagate, as I've babied others with no success.
Remind me come June or July and I would be glad to share cuttings
with anyone that what will pay the shipping.  (or anyother roses I
have for that matter.)

My mother recalls (about 50 years ago) for Sunday School on Mother's
day, the children made cards. Some had red roses to add to the cards
as their mother's were still living, a few other children had white
roses for mother's had passed away. Momma hasn't carried for white
roses much ever since.  

I love this one. It's crisp and pretty even when not in
bloom.  It blooms in the spring, and the bush is covered with
delightful clean, white, fragrant blooms with a darling green eye.
Mother's and aunt's (live in the same area) are troubled with mildew
after blooming. I sprayed mine just once with the baking soda stuff
and NO mildew. Mine is about 3 years old and (pruned) she's now 3x4
feet tall. Aunt say's if you let her she will get 10x8. 
 
I planted my new Lady Banks from Tombstone, Monday. Moved 5 roses to
make a home for her, but for some reason they didn't like the move
too well. Usually I don't expose their root any longer than I can
hold my breath. With the rain and cool weather I wasn't as careful
about it. One is looking peak-id. Moved her from protected side of
house to full exposure to wind. She (Climbing Souv.de la Malmaison)
had only been in the first stop for about 5 months. She'll probably
make it. 

We haven't even had a good frost yet. Usually we have frost before
Halloween. Odd weather. 

How does your garden grow ?

Sincerely,       
Carleen Rosenlund of Rainier, Oregon -USDA-8
Sweetbriar - Keeper of Sheep & Old Roses
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