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Sansevieria documentation

I have not found the original posting in this particular thread. Did I miss
something?

Juan, must you over react? Norma may take my kidding and prodding the wrong
way and react emotionally rather than proactively but must you? Obviously,
I have gotten you both on a bad day. I may have worded my posting badly but
I must admit I was having a bad day myself and should have waited before
sending the wrong message. Lets just blame it all on the dog days of summer
and move on to something else.

There are long periods on inertia in this forum when you are out of the
country, Juan. Your place in this group is obvious. In many ways, you are
the founder of the Sansevieria group.

It is true that Norma has done far more volunteer work at the Huntington
that I have. I live on the east coast and the commute to California would
be impossible. Maybe if I carpooled? I thought she was a part time
volunteer and not a full time staffer.

Suggestions on how to channel ones talents are not a bad thing. There is
far more to the study of plants than just potting them up. Documentation is
more important than just growing pretty plants.

Neither you nor Norma are spring chickens. Perhaps it would be best if you
put your accumulated knowledge to paper (real or virtual) so others can
enjoy it an learn from it before it is too late. David Grigsby and Manny
Singer are now gone and their Sansevieria knowledge is lost forever. It is
most admirable that Norma is attempting to obtain information from Alice
Waidhofer. To lose what she has would be a terrible loss. It is important
to save the history and documentation of the plants we grow.

There are still many questions in the forum that have never been answered.
We still don't know the connection between Sanseviera 'Koko' and the plant
collected in Kenya. What is the actual documentation of Sans. Bally 12681?

Now if only one could correlate the Huntington and Grigsby numbers to the
original USDA introductions. There appears to be quite a few equivalent
collection numbers for the same plants out there. Where are the major
Sanseveria collections? (Koko Crater and the Huntington?)

All of this becomes a moot point in light of the more serious immediate
problem of relocating the Sansevieria club website. So, lets keep it all in
perspective.

Cereusly Steve

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•Subject: Re: [SANS] Fuming with disgust
•From: Big Herm <hermine@ENDANGEREDSPECIES.COM>
•Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:31:57 -0700
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At 11:52 PM 7/7/99 -0400, Juan Chahinian wrote:
>Hi you all,
>I came back from an international trip and was going through the
Sansevieria
>messages when I reached the following message reproduced below from Steve
>Jankalski. I cannot help but feel intense repulse for its totally false
>contents.

Somehow i thought he was kidding.

am I wrong?

duh,

hermine

>Steve, first do one tenth of the work Norma has done for Huntington and
then
>allow yourself the luxury to, perhaps, critizise her dilligence to do
things.
>Norma has done more work and help than you will probably will ever do in
your
>entire life.
>She deserves nothing but the respect of the entire group.
>As for you, Steve, after what you said about this fine lady, you do not
even
>deserve one bothering to type two words.
>
>
>STEVE WROTE:
>
>Ah ha, so Norma you do admit that you have been withholding Sansevieria
>information from the group.
>
>We have all been patiently waiting to hear a peep from you for almost a
>year. Even honey will turn to vinegar if it sits too long.
>
>I find it difficult to believe you threw the baby out with the bath water.
>
>You should have been compiling a list of your own as I have with my
>informal species list and post it for all to see instead proposing to dole
>it out a crumb at a time. I have not withheld any information from the
>group so why do you?
>
>This information obviously is more important to the rest of the members of
>the forum than it is to you. You are doing everyone in the group a great
>disservice by hoarding it.
>
>Don't become the weakest link in the chain. You will only be spiting
>yourself.
>
>Remember what you said, the whole world reads these messages.
>.........................
>
>I do not think there is a place for me in this group.
>
>Good luck to you all and you have my e-mail address, if you want to
>communicate with me.
>
>Juan
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