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Re: [SANS] "stunted sansevierias"

Dear Juan,

Everything depends on ones definition of the terms stunted, dwarf and
juvenile as they apply to Sansevieria.

Stunting by under potting, under fertilizing and root pruning to maintain
juvenile forms is a practice used for a wide variety of plants not just
Sansevieria. Is that not one of the purposes of Bonsai?

Sometimes one needs to look at analogies in groups other than Sansevieria,
as I have tried with the Agave example.

The term for genetically controlled perpetually juveniles in living
organisms is neoteny. It has been reported in a wide variety of organisms
from salamanders to cactus.

I would disagree with your definition, the juvenile form of most
cylindrical leafed Sansevierias have flattened or deeply channeled leaves
not just short in length as would be in starved plants of the same species.
Juvenile foliage would be more like that of the seedling form or the first
leaves of a plant grown from a leaf cutting. Sansevieria canaliculata
'Dwarf' would then be a stunted dwarf not a juvenile.

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I just went over both the postings I made that you took offense with and in
both cases you have criticized me for things that I never said. Both
postings were carefully worded and not at all misleading as you imply. Lets
move on to something else.

Cereusly Steve

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•Subject: Re: [SANS] "stunted sansevierias"
•From: Juan Chahinian <Chahinian@AOL.COM>
•Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:55:48 EDT
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HI,
OK, Hermine
We have a semantic problem here, or rather apples and oranges.

Yes you are right, sansevierias can get stunted by not giving them enough
space. I am sure you know that I know that.

What I was referring to was juvenile forms, which Steve called "stunted"
and
I injudiciously followed. So replace all my "stunted" words from my
previous
e-mail and  read "juvenile" instead.

Clearly, stunting is one thing and juvenile form is another
Again, S. canaliculata 'Dwarf' is a juvenile form.

No juvenile form, to the best of my knowledge can be obtained by stunting.
Grigsby's half barrel proves that it is quite difficult to go back to
mature
form

cheers,
Juan
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