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Re: Natural Clay raised beds and quackgrass

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Frank-  I realize this may be somewhat contentious solution for some... I
roundup whatever weeds are troublesome. I find roundup to be a fast easy
solution to pesky recurring weed problems. (I have heard the discussions
about the roundup product and I am not convinced roundup is a problem in my
yard/garden.)

I simply do not have time/will not allocate precious family time to tasks
that can easily be eliminated by a quick application. With simple care to
follow the directions issued for this product would this not ease your
efforts?

Trying to balance life's demands,
bill missen.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Teuton" <fteuton@total.net>
To: "Square Foot Gardening List" <sqft@listbot.com>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: Natural Clay raised beds and quackgrass


> Square Foot Gardening List - http://www.flinet.com/~gallus/sqft.html
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> Slightly raised beds can be made from soil only with no artificial border.
> Details for various shapes are given in an old Rodale book, High Yield
> Gardening, which like many Rodale books offers a cafeteria of different
> ideas from different intensive growing systems, including Sq Ft.
>
> I have both kinds of beds (or rather, several kinds of beds) in my garden
> area, and plants are willing to grow in all of them.
>
> Quackgrass is a tough nut and you should not attempt to rototill to try to
> get rid of it, unless you are willing to take on a year long task of
> rototilling and planting buckwheat three or more times, followed by winter
> rye in the fall, and tillage of that the following spring.
>
> Other wise rototilling quackgrass will just give you lots of little teeny
> quackgrass plants, and they will all grow again.
>
> The best way to remove quack is by double digging, which is a major
> investment of labor. It can also be controlled by single digging (a fork
or
> a Garden Claw is a good tool for this) and thoroughly chasing down every
> root you can find, and then following that up with rigorous weeding and
> again getting all the roots whenever you see a shoot.
>
> Mulching with boilerplate might work, but it will penetrate lesser
materials
> <grin>.
>
> On the up side, quackgrass leaves dried and powdered can be a useful slug
> killer and repellent, dusted around susceptible plants.
>
> Anyway, good luck with stand alone raised beds, they work fine....and good
> courage in the battle with quackgrass!
>
> Frank Teuton
>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Teri Epp" <kitty@cwnet.com>
> >To: "Square Foot Gardening List" <sqft@listbot.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 9:04 AM
> >Subject: Re: Natural Clay raised beds and quackgrass
> >
> >
> >> Square Foot Gardening List - http://www.flinet.com/~gallus/sqft.html
> >>
> >> Charlie- I have areas that have this clay too and you can actucally
mold
> >it
> >> and make things with it! Luclily it is about 1foot down and is covered
by
> >> hard pan(!) when has been removed mostly and amended with all of the
ggod
> >> stuff. I don't see why this would work- the water just seems to sit
there
> >> doesn't go down for days- have tried adding gypsum and everything I
could
> >> think of to make it into real soil- to no avail- so just make mostly
> >sunken
> >> or rasied bedsand hope nothing  needs to go deeper than about 2 feet.I
> >read
> >> where if you add sand it becomes like concrete- . Hmm- Clay- plus sand
in
> >> raised beds=permanent(almost) borders??Anyone tried this? The only
thing
> I
> >> can think of(not that I know that much about gardening) is that the
> darned
> >> quackgrass is rooted there and is there to stay.Istay it seems- Too bad
> we
> >> can't eat that stuff.It just pushes up thru my newspaper and leaves and
> >> straw like it was nothing- Suggestions on how to manage it? More
compost
> >> just seems to encourage it!-Teri
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: ...Charlie... <csimpson@preferred.com>
> >> To: Sqft <sqft@listbot.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 6:17 PM
> >> Subject: Natural raised beds
> >>
> >>
> >> > Square Foot Gardening List - http://www.flinet.com/~gallus/sqft.html
> >> >
> >> > I am trying the following method to provide "sides" and "ends" to my
> >> raised
> >> > beds. I have rototilled several 3' wide by varying length beds to a
> >depth
> >> of
> >> > 12 or so inches. I then "pulled" with a hoe, the soil, into "banks"
> >about
> >> 6"
> >> > high, to form the borders, next I filled these depressions with
compost
> >> > thereby creating "natural" raised beds. Since my soil is red clay I
> >expect
> >> > the borders to harden rather like adobe. Will let you all know how
this
> >> > works out.
> >> >
> >> > Charlie
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