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Re: "Roundup safe," et al

At 09:53 AM 5/19/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Bill, of wit, wrote:
>
>Isn't most vinegar fermented apple juice?
>Don't fallen apples sort of ferment and sort of get washed into the ground?
>
	RIght, but a bottle of vinegar dumped into the lake is a little different
than apples rotting over the course of several weeks. My point being,
anything used irresponsibly is more dangerous than the worst things used
properly. The reason that we are not all dead is that the folk who handle
and use Plutonium, do so responsibly.

>
>Re ur "Smoking Friend" and Dursban, smokers are, as is the case with all
>addicts, most adept at rationalizing anything that feeds their addiction.
>
	Which would be my point. 
	But I would suggest that we all fit into this catagory. The manufacture of
our computers probably caused more poisons to be released into the
ecosystem than a lifetime of household pesticide use. How many cars have we
each owned, and how many tires bought, worn off on the road (and from there
into the rivers) then sent to have them burned or buried. All those cotton
BlueJeans we wore in the '60's, used poison to prevent weevils, while at
the same time I was in a commune advocating a "return to nature".
	If you eat meat, you are responsible for the destruction of Rain Forests,
no matter how many T-Shirts with frogs on the front you buy. Even if your
dead animal dinner was raised in America, it was replaced by one from
Brazil. Your newspaper causes hundreds of pounds of chemical fertilizer a
year to be washed into the Ground water, while watching TV spews smoke into
the air and overwarmed water into our lakes and streams, causing algea
blooms that can kill the whole body. In my area it causes the Manatee to
overwinter in an area where it gets too cold, causing the death of many of
these endangered creatures when the warm water flows the wrong way.
	This is where a sense of proportion comes in.
	If you worried about all this you would huddle in a corner until you
composted. Remember that the "Native Americans" were great pollutors of
this land long before we came here and someone else will be polluting it
after we are gone. We always make benefit/risk decisions and sometimes the
line is not clear.  Fotunately, the ecosystem is less like a stick balanced
on one end, where a slight push will topple it forever, and more like a
stick hanging from a string, where a push will unbalance it, but it soon
returns to normal.
	I say educate yourself, and make the choice yourself. Don't depend on what
some group or another says you should think. Don't even believe me.
	For instance, find out what GlycoPhosphate is, and find out what tests
have been done. Decide if the test seems fair. For instance, there is one
where they dumped 50 gal of GlycoPhosphate into a running stream then
measured it a few miles down the run. Oddly enough, they found that it
didn't break down. Of course, Monsanto never intended that it should break
down in water... it's meant to be mixed with water to use it.
	But, if you think that this test is an accurate reflection of the way you
mean to use it, then I suggest that you refrain.

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