Yeah. Well, but if you work with ugly you have to be prepared to grow ugly and work through ugly to the end. Not too practical for anyone in a hurry to get a high quality bloom. It's really sorta rare for me to make a cross thinking I'll 'improve' the bloom. I may want to see how something will work and as often as not it has to do with plant growth as the bloom. Maybe if I ever accumulate enough information and experience and have plants I've worked with I'll try it. Probably won't live that long, though. The process of growing something from seeds is fun - and frustrating. The nice stuff I see and often get is due to the hybridizers that produced the plants I use, not to me.

Donald

--- In iris-photos@yahoogroups.com, Linda Mann <lmann@...> wrote:
>
> Although I'm not trying to grow AB's, it sure is nice to see that you
> can use something with falls as crimped as the upper left and get much
> nicer form in the seedlings. I've been tempted to use a few like that
> because they have other traits I want (i.e., alive, blooming and fertile
> here in the vale) but form has been so unlikeable, I haven't.
>
> Thanks for posting the family group, Donald.
>
> > tendency to have crimped falls
> > as seen here. I sure didn't expect the drastic improvement.
>
> Linda Mann
> east TN USA zone 7
>