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Re:HYB: Schreiner blues HTB and Yaquina blue [WAS Early Spring?seedling parentage)

  • Subject: [iris-photos] Re:HYB: Schreiner blues HTB and Yaquina blue [WAS Early Spring?seedling parentage)
  • From: "Neil A Mogensen" neilm@charter.net
  • Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:02:07 -0500

Dollar61--If you are interested in fuller information about the ancestries of both HONKY TONK BLUES and YAQUINA BLUES, you may find this link especially interesting:
This is the opening page for the HIPS (Historical Iris Preservation Society) site, and in the right hand column you will see a reference to "Quick Fix."  If you click on the underlined and high-lighted "all photos" it will take you to a list of historic irises, included in which are the Dykes Medal winning irises. (There is another link in the left column for the DM irises alone, but I am referring you to this one for a reason).
The irises are listed alphabetically.  If you scroll down until you reach HONKY TONK BLUES and click on that link you will get a photo.  On that page you will see "pedigree" which when clicked will open a page with tiny print that contains the family tree of ancestry of HTB.  You can enlarge this image so you can view it in detail by scrolling around on the display.
Similarly in the original alphabetical list, near the bottom, you will find YAQUINA BLUE listed similarly.  Again the same process will lead you to the pedigree.
Both of these irises will have other Dykes Medal irises in their ancestry, so if you go to those entries, you may be able to view the ancestries to much greater depth.  The number of generations back to irises of unknown ancestries or to the species crosses if know is rather plenty, but great fun to trace.
The Schreiners have been breeding with blue and black irises since the earliest of years, and orchid colors, reds, plicatas and others nearly as long.
A few modern Screiner offerings have combined some of these lines--you will note some of the black-line irises in the ancestries of your two, and then just for fun, look at SILVERADO.  It is an astounding complex of THREE lines brought together, two of which are almost entirely of Schreiner breeding .  SWINGTOWN is another that includes diverse lines interwoven.
For good cause, others have built on the Schreiner foundation rather liberally.  Very few blue, white, black or blue plicata irises have few or no Schreiner irises in their ancestry.  Their family's work has been monumental in the development of the modern garden varieties.
Neil Mogensen  z 7 western NC mountains

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