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Re: Re: Hyb: Daylight Independent

  • Subject: Re: Re: Hyb: Daylight Independent
  • From: "loic tasquier" <tasquierloic@cs.com>
  • Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:53:52 +0100

Thanks Chuck for the feed back.
Here are some news from my favorites, the IBs, since not much data seems to be available, i thought it might interest you.
What do you think of Low Ho Silver =(Howdy Do X Baby Blessed)
 Have you ever tried to use it?
It's a very early  bloomer here, early rebloomer ( begining of July) and my best re-rebloomer too.
I was sterile for many years ( i tried hundreds of crosses on this one!)
 but last autumn it set pods!!!
Here is what i got:
pod pol froz seeds
low ho silver cameo blush
low ho silver cry baby
low ho silver dark crystal
low ho silver immortality
low ho silver juicy fruit
low ho silver just teasing
low ho silver speed limit
low ho silver TT05-09d= cerf-Volant X Liaison
The number of seeds is not much, and they might never germinate, no pod with Forever Blue's pollen neither, but who knows, i might get lucky with one of the crosses...
There is also Angel Heart =(Coral Charmer X Be Happy ), that reblooms regularly at the end of June,  then again later,and has set pods ,for the frst time in years also, last autumn:
pod pol froz seeds
angel heart banana cream
angel heart bounce back + 4
angel heart cameo blush
angel heart conjuration + 14
angel heart cry baby
angel heart eternal bliss
angel heart gypsy boy
angel heart i'm back
angel heart popstar
And my third big hope comes from I'll Be Back =(Joe Cool X Eternal Bliss) that starts to reblooom early August and has been a fabulous mother:
pod pol froz seeds
i'll be back again and again
i'll be back detroit city + 17
i'll be back duke of earl
i'll be back eternal bliss
i'll be back honey scoop
i'll be back i'm back
i'll be back mukadam + 4
i'll be back TT05-09d = cerf-Volant X Liaison + 10
i'll be back what again
Many more crosses with the medians, but these 3 seem to be very promissing since they are reliable early and multiple rebloomers here in Holland!
who, like Betty, could die (or kill...)  for a repeat, cycle & everblooming / continuous / non-daylight dependant  rebloomer!
     zone 7 - Nederland
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:41 PM
Subject: [iris-photos] Re: Hyb: Daylight Independent

Of your crosses with Forever Blue, I would watch the crosses with Cry
Baby, Eternal Bliss and Breakers for first generation rebloom, but I
would look for late Fall rebloom rather then the Daylight Independent

For the other crosses I would select the strongest growers and hardiest
plants for a second generation cross.

FB will rebloom for almost the entire growing season, every day, and
has done so a number of years for me. It starts here usually May 15th
and is usually the first of the SDBto bloom. It then stays in bloom
until near the end of June, just when the TBs are finishing. It then
usually takes a break for a week and then starts up again.
Exceptionally hot and dry weather will disrupt this performance. It
does this best if divided every two years. After that it's phenomenal
increase will crowd it too much.

Immortality blooms here near the end of May, one of the first TB to
bloom. Rebloom is usually mid to late August, which seems to be a
reflection of daylight hours (around summer soltice) that is the same
as spring bloom. A much different pattern then what I get with Forever
Blue. And many trials tell me it is a different biological trigger for
rebloom then what we get with the sort of summer rebloom that doesn't
start until much later. A similar rebloom (as what we get with FB)
would mean a rebloom starting a week or two after the spring rebloom
finishes. We just don't get anything like this with any TB. A different
biological trigger.

To get more rebloomers like Immortality and Queen Dorothy, you would
select for early spring bloom. Keep track of the earliest bloomers (
that rebloom or carry rebloom genes) and breed these to each other.
The same would seem to apply to the FB type of rebloomers but it
doesn't seem to be as necessary as some of them are a bit later with
their spring bloom.

Chuck Chapman

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