Hello Connie Eggen,
Pleased to meet you!
Here is the copy of the
mail Griffin Crump sent 3 hours ago.
HE doesn't think my efforts are
"All kidding aside (well, almost all), I agree with
Loic that registering
irises named for the same person in different languages
can lead to
confusion. I see no real problem with generic names, such
as Little Gem or
Dark Eyes, since the translations are usually quite
different in appearance
and such things as little gems and dark eyes are
innumerable. But when we
are referring to the proper names of specific
individual persons, we have a
different situation. Loic mentioned "Joan
of Arc" as an example of such a
problem that could occur in the future.
Oddly, it was only 3 months ago
that I decided I wanted to register a
seedling as "Joan of Arc". On
scouring the Checklist, I found JEANNE
D'ARC already recorded. As far as I
was concerned, another iris had
already been named "Joan of Arc", the name
simply rendered in its original
French. Happily, I was still able to honor
my saint with her title,
MAID OF ORLEANS.
People like to change foreign proper names into their
more easily pronounced versions, and educated people know
that. Thus, the
possibility exists that someone hearing ELEANOR OF
conversation, or seeing it referred to without accompanying date
hybridizer would think that ALIENOR D'AQUITAINE was meant.
That idea of Sophistry was introduced by
Anner Whitehead and in only invoves
This forum is not the
place to call each others names!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:40
Subject: [iris-photos] Re: [iris] REF:
I had to look this one up Anner
Main Entry: soph·ist·ry
subtly deceptive reasoning or
Main Entry: soph·ism
Function: noun1 :
argument apparently correct in form but actually invalid; especially
such an argument used to deceive
I am often befuddled by your writing but on this subject I
Is it really all that important? One would think that if a
hybridizer spent as much time as it takes to introduce a new iris, that person
would do all they could to be certain the name was not confused with another
hybridizers product. And that's all I have to say about that!