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Re: HYB seeds from "Cloud Shadow"
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  • Subject: Re: HYB seeds from "Cloud Shadow"
  • From: "* t* <t*@cs.com>
  • Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:58:39 +0100
 

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Yes Chuck, "Cloud Shadow" is a garden name, Linda still hesitates to register it.
Even if the texture is a bit thin, there aren't that many excellent rebloomers on the market, and this one is very reliable!
 
 
 
 
I know there is nothing certain to call an iris ' Rebloom Carrier ' but it is just a personal way of selecting the irises i think have a potential to give rebloomers if crossed with rebloomers:
'Rain Dance'  does not rebloom but, crossed with 'Frost Echo', has given the rebloomer 'Raindance Returns'.
'Punk' does not rebloom neither but, crossed with 'Negro Modelo', has given the rebloomer 'Under My Thumb'.
 
I hope that my B204D = Step Ahead x Forever  is a ' Rebloom Carrier ', having 'Forever Blue' as pol parent.
And finally, i also hope 'Spell' is  a ' Rebloom Carrier ' with so many rebloomers in his parentage.
 
 
I have spent months sorting out into two categories the irises that i thought had potentioal, and the ones that didn't.
It's just a handy tool that helps me sort my crosses like this:
R X R : REB X REB
R X C : REB X CARRIER
R X N : REB X NON CARRIER
 
(I might eventually make a more accurate selection by adding to the REB criteria E-REB for Early Rebloom and L-REB for Late Rebloom )
 
I now have hundreds of seedlings that have at least one reblooming parent.
I call them my 'Rebloom Carriers', and even if they are incompatible, I still hope that after several generations, i will finally get some rebloom.
 
 
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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] HYB seeds from "Cloud Shadow"

I'm assumming "Cloud Shadow" is a garden name, as I'm unable to find any information on it.
What is the rebloom information on it?
 
If it is a Fall Cyclic rebloomer , then  you will get a number of good FC  rebloomers from cross with Autumn Jester, and some FC  rebloomer s from the other crosses.
 
If it is a Summer Rebloomers, then no rebloomers from the other crosses unless one of them has the correct  gene set carried as recessive.
 
Lotic, what  information do you use to classify something as a "Rebloom Carrier" ?
 
Fall Cyclic and Vernalization facilitative  rebloomers seem to be a result of a dominant gene, thus you can't have carriers. Although some plants may have these  rebloom genes but lack secondary genes to enable rebloom.
 
For "Summer  rebloomers" and "Whenever Rebloomers"  there are at least one set of recessive rebloom genes, so you can have carriers, but two differerent types.  And each seems to also have at least one set of dominant genes as well. I suspect "Whenever" rebloomers to have a recessive gene plus two dominant genes.
 
Chuck Chapman
 


-----Original Message-----
From: loic tasquier <tasquierloic@cs.com>
To: iris-photos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Jan 8, 2011 6:48 am
Subject: [iris-photos] HYB seeds from "Cloud Shadow"

 
 
 
Hello Linda,
 
 Here are the crosses i have managed with your reblooming " Cloud Shadow" = Immortality X Celebration Song.
As you can see, it is fertile both ways.
 
They are not TB X TB crosses, i know, but this mail is, in fact, for the Median Fans:
I will back-cross some of the best babies with their smaller parent.
 
 
If you are interested in back-crosses with "Cloud Shadows", i can make them and send you the seeds, but that will take some time!
 
 
 
 
 
2009cross SDB X TB
 
       
'Autumn Jester'
REBLOOMER
 
 
 
"Cloud Shadow" REBLOOMER
 31seeds
2009cross TB X SDB
"Cloud Shadow"
REBLOOMER
    
'Punk'
SPACE AGE
REBLOOM-
CARRIER
 18seeds
2010cross SDB X TB
B204D= Step Ahead x Forever Blue
REBLOOM-
CARRIER
 
"Cloud Shadow" REBLOOMER
 7seeds
2010cross          SDB X TB     
'Rain Dance'
REBLOOM-
CARRIER
"Cloud Shadow" REBLOOMER
 9seeds
2010cross TB X MTB
"Cloud Shadow"
REBLOOMER
'Spell'
REBLOOM-
CARRIER
41seeds
 
 
 
 
 
 
Of course, the minute i have pictures of the first babies, you will be first to know!
Till then, we can dream...
 
LoÃc
 
 
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