Re: ID for this one...anyone recognize it?


Oops, sorry about the repetition on the answer - didn't have the other messages in the in box yet.
 
as to the question about the falls pattern appearing on the falls, it happens commonly in a number of the diploids with I. pallida X I. variegata background.  Not unusual in 'Honorabile' and it's sports.  Common in 'Japanesque', 'Edina', 'Move Over' (which looks pretty much identical to 'Loreley'), Minnesota Mixed-up Kid, 'Brising' etc.
 
Some like 'Clematis' and 'Rhythm' usually have the standards appear as nearly identical to the falls and are "flatties", but they occasionally produces a "normal" flower, in which the standards don't have so much of the striped pattern (or none of it) and stand up as they should.
 
Dave


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