Thanks Chuck. I'll make a note in my iris db
to check this out next spring. Actually, I'll go hunt down the label now,
as whatever this one is, it had the Black Beauty label near it.
I'm very careful when I get new iris. I
normally plant them all in the nursery bed, and leave them there til they bloom,
so I can confirm their id.
Plus, these days, there's more pix on the internet
to help re-id some that have lost their labels.
An historic iris is where I sometimes spend years
tracking down a source, then wait for that iris to bloom to confirm it's
correct, then compare. So you see, I end up with more than just 2
iris. And I'm often just guessing at what my unknown might be. I'm
getting rather tired of it, although it does help keep my id'ing skills
sharp.
For example, I got SDB's Fire One and Live Coals
from 2 diff sources back around 2001. They sure look alike to me, so I got
1 more of each a few yrs later. They won't co-operate and bloom the same
year. Then, I saw Ever Ready, which also looks much like these 2.
So, now I have 5 iris instead of just 2. I should be able to look at the
original 2 and be able to say, yes, that's you for sure.
El, near Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:54 PM
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Here is a photo of Midnight Express.
"Black Beauty" is a name
that I could see someone putting on a black iris that they don't know name of.
Such as a local nursery or a local grower that nursery is getting a plants
from. Of of course there is the Holland mass growers that
arbitrarily put names on plants.
Seen a few of those. Dominion nursery (when still in
business) had about 10 iris for sale in their catalog one year, none of
them were correctly named. They had an "Edith Wolford" that appeared
to be from 1930's. I let them know, and they didn't buy from that wholesaler
again.
Chuck Chapman
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From: Eleanor Hutchison
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Boy, don't I know that, Chuck! Although I'm
down to around 50 unknowns now, instead of around 150.
Now that I look at my records, I got Midnight
Express from you in 1997 and also brought it with me when I moved here in
1999. Does my photo look like that one?
El
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That doesn't mean name is correct.
Do you remember where you
got you cultivar.?
Here is "The Black Douglas". It and Sable were the
"Black" iris of that time. Both were what we would now call dark purple.
No ruffling and not nearly the shade of black of your cultivar. And much
narrower petals.
If your "Black Beauty" was around in 19389 it
would have won dykes medal hands down.
I just checked the 1939 check
list. "Black Beauty" was registered in 1928 by Kirk, who died in 1939. the on
line list refers to the 1939 checklist, not the year of
introduction.
Chuck Chapman
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I'm sure it's the same Black Beauty, as there are
no others in the AIS online register. I've had mine for well over 10
years.
El
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Oh, Oh, you mean there is another introduction with the name "Black Beauty"
-great!
I sure does look like yours. Thank you so much El!
Janet
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Eleanor Hutchison
<e*@mymts.net> wrote:
Taking into account a better photo & a
different angle, it sure looks like my Black Beauty, which is quite
lovely.
El, near Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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The only registered iris with the name "Black Beauty" was 1939.
It does not look like a 1939 iris to me.
Janet
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Marsha
<M*@aol.com> wrote:
It says HM Black Beauty...is that
not the name?
Marsha
Mid TN
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From: AIS Janet Smith <g*@gmail.com>
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Wed, Sep 21, 2011 9:56 pm
Subject: [iris-photos] What is the name of this
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Does anyone know Jan Leaky of Missouri?
I don't have a good phone number for her and am trying to find out the
name of the iris
she won Honorable Mention on in the Youth Division 2009. The link
is below.
Or does anyone know the name. I have several people really
wanting to know:
Thank you,
Janet Smith
Central California
Mountains
