Re: perrieri


Tom--and others interested,
 
Chuck Chapman mentions in one of the recent posts that the type of recessive white of the Kupari clone in circulation (I assume you have the same one) is a glaciata.  That was one of the three possible recessive whites encountered in tall beardeds, and your obtaining plicatas, both from this group and from the cross with *Iris variegata* tends to confirm that.  The recessive whites that show up in pallida populations should, I would think, include not only this type, but the w-sub-1 and w-sub-2 as well.  Since I can't reproduce subscript easily in this format that "-sub-* form is intended to indicate the character in subscript.
 
Each of these recessives represent redirection of the anthocyanin production of the particular variety or varieties that carry them at different points in the chain of chemical events.  The 'Ostrey White' clone of *Iris aphylla* is also a glaciata type white from what I have read, so crosses of the white Kupari clone with it would be interesting.
 
Forming triploids from 4n x 2n parentages is one of the pathways to tetraploids.  Crosses from the triploid to diploid pollen sources could presumably on occasion give rise to tetraploid offspring from unreduced gametes in the triploid.  I'm hoping this holds true with siberians as well (it should), but in any event, a great many attemps and a fair amount of luck are required to get seed, seed with embryos, germinated seedlings, and seedlings that survive to bloom and increase.
 
I would like to use some tetraploid siberian pollen on Christy Hensler's JS-series JI-type seedlings to see if any triploids can be produced.  Similarly, tetraploid siberian pollen on some of the sterile *Iris pseudacorus* hybrids with *ensata* clones, especially some of the more full-bodied ones, is something I have in the back reaches of my filed-away intensions.
 
Too many projects, and too many things I want to try have always been part of my iris experience, and one of the things that has tended to bog down my productivity.  My intentions of getting some seedlings from Peyrard's *timofejewii* x *variegata* hybrid have not yet bourne fruit, especially with tetraploid TB's and some diploid BB's such as 'Pink Ruffles.'
 
Since I don't have room to plant the seedlings I *do* have and grow I need to be very focused and conservative about projects.  But what fun is that?
 
Your *missiouriensis* X siberian hybrids intrigue me.  I assume these were diploid 28-chromosome siberians.  Is that true?  Or were they Sino-siberians of the 40-chromosome group?  I will echo Christy Hensler's comments and say I also find them lovely and have the same curiosity about them.
 
Neil Mogensen    z 7  western NC mountains.


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