Re: unusual Iris delavayi?


 

Hi Tony,

Thanks for the information on Kew's plants and your great observations.

Ken Walker

On 8/18/2016 6:59 AM, Tony Hall wrote:

To whom it may concern:

Regarding the image supplied by Ken.

This is original Iris delavayi and not from garden-raised seed. In my opinion it is fairly representative of the species, if a little pale-flowered. It was collected by Kit Grey-Wilson in Yunnan many years ago and has nothing to do with I. clarkei, a much more compact species always. The latter also has, of course, hollow stems and so is very easily distinguished from any other members of the Sibiricae. It is much rarer in cultivation and, incidentally, I have never seen hybrids between I. delavayi and I. clarkei, although that’s not to say they don’t exist in a garden somewhere.

We have other collections of I. delavayi on the Rock Garden at Kew, very near to the one illustrated, which are almost impossible to tell apart from robust forms of I. bulleyana, although it is conceivable that they are from natural-hybrid swarms. If one compares original material of I. delavayi in Kew’s Woodland Garden – where it is often relatively dry as well as slightly shady – with original plants of the same wild collection growing on the Rock Garden – in the open and adjacent to running water – one could be forgiven for thinking them completely different species. We also have many collections labelled for convenience I. bulleyana that are in fact from wild-collected swarms of I. bulleyana with I. chrysographes. Sometimes I go so far as to think that these 3 members of the Sibiricae (i.e. I. delavayi, I. bulleyana & I. chrysographes) would be better placed under a single species name (Iris wilsonii and I. forrestii are easier to tell apart and – being yellow-flowered – are quite distinct, although they will readily hybridize with the blue-violet species of the series in gardens), especially as the differences alleged by, e.g. the Chinese, do not work in practice, e.g. the position of the standards or inner tepals: the angle at which they are held in relation to the rest of the perigone even changes with time on individual flowers. It is easy to see the differences between these “species” in fairly typical specimens, but so much interbreeding occurs in nature.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Although retired from Kew, I check these Asian species regularly when they are flowering, and if I spot any hybrizing taking place I immediately inform staff and get the hybrid seedling removed. And  these days pods are automatically removed before any seed ripens and confuses an already complicated issue.

Tony Hall.




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