I'm not upset about receiving misidentified iris species in the
exchange, just interested in keeping track of what they really turn
out to be. Say I get a particularly nice or unusual halophila from
last year's wild collected seed with known provenance. Someone 20
years from now, upon receiving a piece of that clone, decides to check
the old seed exchanges to find out said origin, but finds that it
lists 09MS254 as lactea chrysantha. They may think they have the wrong
plant of unknown origin when they actually have 09MS254, misidentified
at the source but still possessing a valid collection location.
Regarding NOIDs, as an Ann Arborite I recall many public service
announcements back in the late 80's encouraging me to avoid them.
Sean Z
Quoting C*@aol.com:
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> There are no warranties, and there can be surprizes.
>
> I was greatly disappointed after some years of nurturing when the
> seeds of a much touted white berried foetidissima from the Exchange
> produced a plant with fruit the color of russian dressing. Too
> dreary for words. Off to the dump it went. On the other hand, a
> variegata represented as "white form," which I hoped might resemble
> 'Innocenza,' bloomed with pale butter standards and white falls
> striped carmine, a darling cheeky tiny plant.
>
> The only issue among the seeds I have donated of which I am aware
> was that I received as a gift a good quantity of what was
> represented to me as a white tridentata--represented as such by
> someone who should have known-- and I sent half to the exchange.
> Some years later that person told me it had turned out not to be
> tridentata, but setosa.
>
> Must we call these things NOIDS? The HIPS people have started using
> that terminology in recent years, and it has infested the web, but
> it has always seemed too "cute" for my tastes. I am still using the
> traditional HIPS term "Unknowns," myself, which offers the
> advantage--in addition to some dignity--of being easily understood
> by all. . . . but, by all means, follow your own bliss.
>
> Has there been any thought given in recent years to having an actual
> rhizome exchange or by by-mail auction to benefit SIGNA? These
> things were done in past to benefit the MIS. I'd like to see some of
> these bearded clones and species get wider distribution.
>
> AMW
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Kramb <d*@badbear.com>
> To: i*@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Dec 27, 2010 10:11 am
> Subject: Re: [iris-species] more NOIDs
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> Well, I have been asking donors to send me photos of the parent
> plants. I add them to the online version of the Seed Ex list,
> turning it into a mini color catalog than just a list. I only got
> three respondents this year though.
>
> Also, some SIGNA members have done a great job of adding seed photos
> of true species to the database. This is intended to help people
> receiving seeds to doublecheck them. Once upon a time I was dying
> to grow Iris longipetala. Had I known what the seeds were supposed
> to look like I mightn't have wasted years growing siberians by
> mistake waiting for them to bloom. The species database itself was
> born out of that story, actually... about 11 years ago.
>
> But as for keeping track of specific donations retrospectively, no,
> we don't have anything like that. Maybe we should just post a
> disclaimer "CAVEAT EMPTOR. ALL SALES FINAL." lol j/k
>
> Dennis in Cincinnati (celebrating my dad's 80th birthday today!)
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> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Sean A. Zera <z*@umich.edu> wrote:
>
> It just occurred to me: does SIGNA keep track of such things, to
> reduce confusion for someone who receives a clone of an originally
> misidentified seed-ex plant, or someone trying to submit offspring to
> a later exchange?
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