RE: iris lifespan - Iris setosa
- Subject: RE: iris lifespan - Iris setosa
- From: D* H* <d*@alaska.com>
- Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:59:08 -0900
What you write is a good explanation of
why Iris setosa is not found in the wilds of NY (if there are any wilds left in
NY, that is.) Iris setosa is a VERY widely distributed iris in the
northern parts of the world. I think it is almost circumpolar (north pole,
that is.) We seldom, if ever, get over 80*F in a
summer so heat stress is not a problem here. The heat you have (or maybe the
resultant moisture stress) is probably the problem that your The soil here seldom thaws before spring
time, so the plants do not get false starts and waste energy during warm
winters you all often have. We seldom get “late freezes” in
spring/summer or “early freezes” in summer/fall. These wild iris are usually in open (treeless)
areas and usually have damp soils at least part of the summer. There was
one area just north of town that was TOTALLY iris blue color when the flowers
were out (and totally hot pink when the shooting stars were blooming) up until the
early 1970s. That area settled down some 2-5 feet or so in the 1964 earthquake
and allowed brackish water to flood the area with very high tides. The irises
are not as thick as they used to be because people have been digging the iris
out by the pick-up truck loads for decades (even though it has been illegal all
this time.) It is so sad that this spectacular natural wonder was and is
continuing to be plundered. In my Anchorage garden (which is a bit warmer
than the nearby wild) the I. setosa is starting to grow by mid-May and leaves start
to turn yellow mid-August to mid-September (with plants in the dry soil areas
turning yellow first and plants in moist conditions still having green leaves
until freezing.) In moist soil conditions the leaves are much larger and
the clumps much more vigorous, while dry conditions produce plants that barely
multiply or flower – but they are still able to live 20+ years in these “bad”
conditions. Clumps two feet across are common. In
large clumps, the center is sometimes empty – which is like most other
perennials. A seedling can easily make a clump about a foot across in five
years if happy with normal moist garden soil. If I forget to collect the
seeds, there will be so many seedlings in the garden you would swear that it
was a patch of lawn had somehow moved into the garden! Around here, even in the most abandoned of
gardens, if you find any plant still alive it will be Iris setosa and other native
plants growing in the grass. I hope this sheds some light on the Iris
setosa portion of your conversation. Debbie Hinchey From: Sean Good plant establishment in seedling year followed by bloom
in second year. Third year bloom sometimes equal to second year bloom, not
always. However, following either one or two years of bloom, plants begin
a steady decline and eventually disappeared, despite all efforts to
meet their cultural needs. I observed little if any vegetative increase here
in NY. It appeared that seed propagation was necessary to maintain pure setosa
clones over any length of time. Someone advised me years ago that you could reverse the
decline of setosas by moving plants to a new location in the garden. However, I
have not started any new setosas since, so have no way to confirm. Along similar lines I do have an inter-specific hybrid of setosa
x siberian hybrid which has an odd growth pattern. It would be tempting
to attribute its peculiar growth habit to setosa parentage. This
hybrid plant grew like a bandit and flowered in its second year. It then
went into an odd dormant like state for years with very slow, if
any, vegetative increase. It failed to flower for several years though
appearing to be healthy. It lived in this sedentary state until
my patience gave out. I then transplanted it to a new
location in the garden. The year following transplant it again flowered
for the second time in a decade. These observations taken together suggest to me
that setosa may not increase vegetatively in the wild. Perhaps it is a
short lived perennial maintaining populations by successive
generations of seed grown seedlings. Are there setosa growers who have different experience or
can shed some light on this ? Of course, siberians are very hardy, long lived, and
increase vegetatively. Just sharing observations. irisman646
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