I donât know how many unregistered names there are, conceivably many, but in the official database there are 68086 individual entries as of the end of the 2013 registration year.
However there are a significant number of duplicates across the 1939 and 1949 Checklists. Considering that there are over 12700 entries in the 1939 data and 6000 in the !949 data, there could easily be 3000-4000 duplicates. One of these days I will generate a script to figure that out.
Thanks
John
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> On Feb 7, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Chuck Chapman irischapman@aim.com [iris-species] <iris-species@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Actually closer to 90,000 named cultivars (sic) at this point in time.
> the 65,000 total was from a few years back. And then there are the
> unregistered names. It takes some creativity to come up with a new name
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> Some species are quite variable, and some are fairly uniform. Some
> have a lot of colour morphs and some only have one. But each clone
> different from another clone in a number of variables. Part of what
> makes it tricky to pin down a species as sometimes features can
> overlap with others. An interesting read is Edgar Anderson's papers on
> looking at setosa, virginica and versicolor. They were published in
> 1928 and 1936 ( close to those dates) and can be found in several
> places. For a good feel for this, check out you local wild species.
> Look carefully at differences between clumps. Doesn't have to be iris,
> it can be any wild species. Many, many years a go, as a young lad, I
> looked at variations in Canada Lily. Over one summer I collected about
> 20 variations . Petal colour, height, number of flowers per stalk,
> form of flowers, number of dots, size of flower, and amount of
> texturing on petals etc. Can still picture many of them.
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> So there can be many big variations on just small variations on a
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> Some of those names must be getting pretty far fetched if not just
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> I have a question for you and the rest of the list:
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> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 5:07 PM, "Sean Zera zera@umich.edu
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> There are roughly 250 to 300 wild species of irises. There is no exact
> number, partly because not all species are yet known to science, but
> mainly because not all botanists agree on which plants are distinct
> species. This is often because the plants themselves don't seperate
> neatly into the discrete units people would like them to! To name a new
> species, you describe it in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, at
> which point it is considered published. Preserved specimens are stored
> permanently, commonly at a university, so that future scientists have
> access to an example of the exact plant you were talking about.
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> Gardeners use cultivar names to uniquely identify clones of irises in
> cultivation. These could be unique forms of wild species, or more
> commonly garden hybrids. To name a new cultivar, you introduce it by
> offering the plant for sale to the public, publishing the name and
> description in a nursery's catalog. Popular plants like irises will
> have an official registrar group to try to keep track of all the
> cultivar names. It is not required that you register your cultivar, but
> doing so helps to prevent accidentally duplicating one of those 65,000
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