Not ot keep stirring up this
compost pile, but two items strike me as either sloppy or
misdirected.
First, Ostry White is a selection of I. aphylla and
should be so noted in the parentage. Simply using a clonal name
is insufficient information for a registry! Is this a typo in
the Encyclopaedia entry, or was the registration so made? OK,
this can be easily corrected in the Encyclopaedia, but what
about the registry itself? Maybe I'm a stickler, but I do think
on the less informed (which is sometimes myself) who may think
Ostry White is a hybrid, as well as future generations, when
Ostry White may be a lost entity. Also, not knowing the history
of this clone, there may be other factors involved.
Second, if one sibling is to be considered a species x, then
both must be considered as such. Appearance is less important
than genetics in this case.
If the reason was, that one sibling fell just outside of the
class description for IB due to height, then we have a problem
with the class definition! The other possibility that falls to
mind is not placing all ones eggs in the same basket and
registering sibs in two categories. I find such thinking
illogical in supporting Iris classes, especially species x.
As a non-exhibitor, I find this type of information misleading
and confusing. One must ask themselves, is the registry
oriented to exhibition classes, or is it oriented to recording
facts as we know them?
Just some thoughts...
Jamie
From: p*@mindspring.com
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 2:55 AM
To: i*@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [iris-species] Spec-X?
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Not to dwell on the matter, especially since the whole matter
and apparent frustration has died down. But I just noticed
something in the Registry for two Introductions. It was
touched onÂthat a Hybridizer could vie for certain awards by
how they classified their Introduction.ÂThat was only relating
one cultivar to one class.ÂÂHowever,Âthese two specific
cultivars were not mentioned together. They are 'Alpha Gnu'
and 'Blueberry Philly'. AG is Registered as a Spec-X and BF
is Registered as an IB with only a difference in height of an
inch, base color.Â
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BLUEBERRY FILLY
(Brad Kasperek, R. 1998) Sdlg. 94-13-67. IB, 23" (58 cm), VE
Blue violet (RHS 89B/C), silver white streaking; style arms
violet blue; beards light yellow; broken color pattern; slight
fragrance. Batik X Ostry White. Zebra 2000.
ALPHA GNU
(Brad Kasperek, R. 1998) Sdlg. 94-13-20. SPEC-X, 22" (56 cm),
VE
Red violet (RHS 88A/B) streaked silver white (155C); style
arms violet lavender; beards light yellow; broken color
pattern; slight fragrance. Batik X Ostry White.
Zebra 1999. HM 2002, HM 2003, AM 2005, Ran-P 2008.
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Has anyone seen them side by side or at least in person to be
able to tell a difference?Â
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So, we are to guess Mr. Kasparek, is attempting to vie for
two awards by classifying them differently?
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Is that fair? Can that be justified? Another loophole for
Hybridizers to wiggle through?
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Please don't misunderstand me, Brad is a very nice person and
very hard working, but at what point will AIS draw the line
assuming there is no real difference morphologically between
them?
--
Jamie V.
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