Re: Re: Pseudacorous seeds was Late additions to the seed exchange

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Dennis: I am probably the closest to a real plant ecologist on this forum. I go back all the way to the first Earth Day when I was a PHD graduate student in plant ecology. I protested then and i do now over the right issues. I recognize that some plants are invasive. But this whole issue is muchÂmore complex than simply banning a plant. Plants that are invasive in one area are not in another. Even native plants can become invasive taking over the habitat from other natives. I certainly think it important to understand our actions, but tarring one plant because someone says its invasive somewhere is sad when there are environments where it can be grown without threat. If a gardener is careful just having pseudacorus in the garden is not a problem. The problem is more with the massive seed diustributions on native wetlands that occured in the !950s when the idea of adding a colorful exotic to the local environment was considered wonderful. Pseudacorus was used to maintain banks on canals and other areas to prevent erosin. Indeed, most of the invasive plants we see today were introduced into the wild by the thousands to allay the devastation of overuse, clearcutting and other abuses. It is no surprise that when planted in huge numbers they were able to establish in the environment. Stop the abuse of the land and you will limit exotic invasives.

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From: "Dennis Kramb" <d*@badbear.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:19:42 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-species] Re: Pseudacorous seeds was Late additions to the seed exchange

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Down with pseudacorus!
Save the natives! ;-)

DK

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:15 PM, <C*@aol.com> wrote:

Pseudacorus to the people!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Chapman <i*@aim.com>
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Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:04 pm

Subject: [iris-species] Re: Pseudacorous seeds was Late additions to the seed exchange

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I have been hybridizing Pseudacorous for a number of years and I will be introducing some in the near future, perhaps even this year.

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Included in these are a tetraploid that has flower about 7" across, and a white with outstanding bud count and branching. numerous seedlings of various colours, and doubles.

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Would these seeds be welcome or not?Â

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I was going to send some, but got behind.

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Chuck Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: William Plotner <g*@molalla.net>
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Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53 pm
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The wild Pseudacorus plants are on the invasive list in many states...However the named cultivars and the Pseu crosses like Roy Davidson, Etc. are not included in any ban.

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From: h*@povn.com

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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:42 PM

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I noticed that along with listings for pseudacorus in the seed exchange is a late listing for x pseudata ex 'Chance Beauty'.

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I was under the impression that pseudacorus or pseud crosses weren't going to be welcomed any longer so have been either giving away seeds from 'Chance Beauty', 'Shape Shifter', and the named white pseudacorus I have. Am I mistaken?

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Christy