RE: Louisianas


 

Hello, Vic.  I was interested in how you have fertilized your irises in drainless containers.   I have grown Louisianas that way for years but have never been sure how to translate fertilizer recommendations for garden plantings into rates to apply in a container when water can’t drain through.  SLI literature going way back recommends of 8-10 pounds of 8-8-8 per 100 square feet of iris beds, or the equivalent.  But I have no idea what happens to the components of the fertilizer in containers such as yours and the ones I use.  

 

In my case I have used large half-barrels, but am switching to shallow pans a bit bigger than yours.   I have generally fertilized twice a year with Osmocote and the irises seem happy, but I really don’t know what is going on chemically.   Nor do I really know how much fertilizer to use.  I sprinkle it in at about the rate that I would in a pot of comparable size with a drain hole, or perhaps a bit less than that.  Nutrients can’t  literally leach out, but I still am not sure what is available to the plant.  And I worry about over fertilizing. 

 

I have noticed in some of the big barrels that the growth rate declines after three or so years.   When digging the irises out, it is clear that below about 6-8 inches, there is a sort of dead zone, meaning that roots don’t go deeper.  In a more recently prepared barrel, that is not true.  Perhaps this is the effect of salt buildup or the lack of oxygen.  Maybe I am over fertilizing.   Clearly, the best practice would be to empty and remake the barrels every three years, which I try to do, but I don’t always have enough time. 

 

I do think that one advantage of shallower containers will be that they do get more flushing from rainwater, as you said.

 

I would be interested in any thoughts on how to fertilize Louisianas in drainless containers.

 

Patrick O’Connor

New Orleans

 

From: iris-species@yahoogroups.com [mailto:iris-species@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor W. Lambou
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:41 AM
To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [iris-species] Louisianas

 

 

Mark,

 

You asked has anyone tried growing Louisiana Irises in containers and did it work without them destroying the container?  I grow Louisiana irises (Iris brevicaulis, I. fulva, I. giganticaerulea, I. hexagona, I. nelsonii & hybrids and clones), I. virginica, I. tridentata, I. versicolor, I. laevigata, & I. pseudacorus in containers. I use mainly 20” x 13” x 12 ½” deep (18 gallon) rectangular plastic tubs or containers but on occasion use smaller 14” x 12½” x 7” deep plastic tubs (10 gallon) and larger 30 gallon plastic tubs. The tubs have no drainage and I attempt to keep several inches of water over the soil surface throughout the year (spring, summer, fall, and winter).

 

I usually fertilize the pots once a year with a commercial 10-10-10 fertilizer; (except those containing I. tridentata, which receive no fertilizer) but on occasions I have skipped fertilizing some of the pots.  I have been asked do I encounter any salt buildup in the pots from the fertilizer.  I reside in a high-rainfall area and, I assume, that some flushing out of the tubs occurs during high -rainfall periods.  And even during long dry spells, I have not observed any problems with salt buildups in the pots.

 

I have also been asked do I encounter any problems with mosquitos. My answer to that is yes and no. I find that if I maintain water over the soil surface continuously and not let the soil surface dry out mosquito larvae seem to be almost nonexistent. Let the soil surface dry out and then add water to the containers and they will be full of mosquito larvae. In containers, where I maintain surface water, mosquito predators (dragonfly nymphs, water beetles, etc., etc.) evidently for the most part eliminate the mosquito larvae. And, these predators will rapidly cumulate in the tubs.  It is not unusual to observe on a single plant leaf the empty shells of two to four dragonfly nymphs that had metamorphosed into adults. The tubs will at times contain clouds of tadpoles and the serenading of frogs at night is an added bonus. Most mosquito species like temporary water pools and not permanent water bodies to breed.

 

In far as I can tell I do not have any problem with the irises destroying the containers. After, a number of years I sometimes have a problem with overcrowding. Also, after being out in the garden and the sun for a good number of years (4 or 5 + years), the pots start to become brittle and one does has to careful not bang or hit them too hard with some hard object. But I consider this a minor problem if one is reasonably careful.

 

Vic

 

 

 

 

From: i*@yahoogroups.com [i*@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark A. Cook
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:52 PM
To: i*@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [iris-species] Louisianas

 

 

      Out of curiosity, has anyone tried growing Louisiana Irises in containers?  If so, did it work without them destroying the container?

 

Mark A. Cook

b*@bellsouth.net

Dunnellon, Florida. 



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