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Re: SV: Spuria?

Is it a recognized species? 

If so can you provide data and reference.

Best I could find was a passing reference in Kohlein, but not as a described species, but as a synonym for a local form of Iris spuria.

Chuck Chapman




-----Original Message-----
From: Lars HÃpfner <hoepfner@privat.dk>
To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Jun 19, 2010 12:05 pm
Subject: SV: [iris-species] Spuria?

 
Sorry Chuck.
It is not the most northern of the spuria species. We have also one here in Denmark. It is spuria v. Danica. I am growing it.
 
Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards
 
Lars HÃpfner
Langengen 38, Svogerslev
4000  Roskilde
Denmark
 
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Emne: Re: [iris-species] Spuria?
 
El and Jim.

I suspect that you both have Iris halophila.

The best description I can find is in  "Iris" by Fritz Kohlein.  He has a good section on spuria species.

Halophila is a mid sized spuria, vary variable, but ranges from 15-30" and blooms early, usually with tall bearded iris.  It is the most northern of the spuria species. Native to Rumania and Russia. Likes moist soil conditions and tolerates salty soil very well. Some specimins found at base of Himalayas and on slopes of Altai mountains.

Usually yellow  or yellow and blue, but a white form also exsists, and a blue form with yellow lines.

No information on dormancy habits.

Chuck Chapman

 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: El Hutchison <eleanore@mts.net>
To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 9:52 pm
Subject: Re: [iris-species] Spuria?
 
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Jim, I'm sure you're pulling my leg.  ;)
 
I truly never see any spuria with any green until the first spear of green shows up and I mark it in my garden journal, then go enter it in my iris db after I've done my entire garden checklist for the day.  Usually I do that while I'm weeding, but weeding wasn't possible at the same time this year, because of the horrid weather.  I have a path that goes past most of my spurias though, so I checked them out early, like the beginning of April this year.  A few haven't shown up yet, darn.
 
I got side-tracked yet again today from checking the foliage on my other spurias, including ochrelarea and orientalis.  BTW, I've read that these 2 are the same.  Is that true?  They haven't bloomed here yet.
 
The friend who gave me the species spuria was over today, so I gave her a few plants she'd been secretly coveting, to further ensure she'd get her husband to dig a huge clump tomorrow.  Hopefully, it won't be too muddy, as they had some flooding there a few wks ago.
 
El
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Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-species] Spuria?
 
I don't believe you, El. Most have green on them if you look real, real, close - next years leavesJim
Jim
 
From: e*@mts.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-species] Spuria?
 
 
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There's never any green on any spurias here in spring, so I have to assume they go completely dormant.  I haven't specifically checked if they're dormant in fall though.  I'll put that on my list to check for this year.
 
El
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-species] Spuria?
 
How about the other spurias you have. Did they go completely dormant in fall. for me they go into winter quite  green. Sometimes older foliage dies back, but  there is new green shuts goining into winter. Foliage dead in  spring except at base of plant.

Chuck Chapman
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: El Hutchison <eleanore@mts.net>
To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2010 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [iris-species] Spuria?
 
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Yes, totally dormant, as I wasn't sure it was coming back up this spring, since the weather was so odd this year.  Some spurias in other beds came up late too.
 
El
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Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-species] Spuria?
 
Too early and short for carthalinea. Could be  kerneriana.

kerneriana is supose to go completly dormant in fall.

El, does this plant completly die back in fall?

Chuck Chapman
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: William Plotner <gardens@molalla.net>
To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2010 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [iris-species] Spuria?
 
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Hi El,
 
Most likely I. carthalinae (36" to 40" tall)  If much shorter then it could be I. kerneriana
 
All My Best
Will
Wildwood Gardens
P.O. Box 250
Molalla, OR 97038-0250
gardens@molalla.net
http://www.wildwoodgardens.net

 
----- Original Message -----
From: e*@mts.net
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 8:48 PM
Subject: [iris-species] Spuria?
 
 
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This beauty was bloomng when I got home today.  It was given to me by a friend who says it's the first iris she saw as a child, growing around her Mother's and aunt's country places for well over 50 yrs.  That's about 60 or so miles west of here.
 
Does it look like a species spuria?
 
El, near Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Z3
 
 
 
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