Re: ID please

 

When I mentioned Lake Superior and Northern Lake Michigan I was remiss in not mentioning Lake Huron, but the point I was trying to make is that it is supposedly endemic to the Northern Great Lakes. The reason I mention this, is I recieved plants of Iris cristata a year ago that bloomed for me that were just as small as Iris lacustris. I have grown many clones of cristata and lacustris through the years and I was quite surprised at the small size of this cristata. Ironically it supposedly came from a lake edge in Georgia which is very far from the great lakes probably 700 miles or more. It looked like cristata more than lacustris but the size was the same. So while cristata is generally larger there are rare cristata clones of the same size as lacustris.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleanor Hutchison" <eleanore@mymts.net>
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Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:35:58 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-species] ID please

 

Great story, Chuck!  Thanks for sharing it.
 
El, Ste Anne, Manitoba, Canada

From: i*@aim.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 9:00 AM
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Subject: RE: [iris-species] ID please

 

  Defiantly west coast of Bruce peninsula.

But if on Manitoulin Island it would be very  very limited. I have never found it there and have checked various suitable places. A specific location would allow me to check next time I'm there.

Manitoulin Island is a very interesting place to visit. My grandfather was raised there and there still are a lot of cousins living there and a good number of family graves and a WW1 monument to several of my grandfather's cousins that died in the war.

Total current population of Island is 16,000. It is very large island and very rugged. considered Northern Ontario climate. About same as Sudbury Ontario. Soil can be very limited. My Grandfather and siblings had as one of their chores to collect soil  to bring home for the garden.

Chuck Chapman

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Walkup <krw25@cornell.edu>
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Sent: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 1:47 pm
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Lacustris is also found around Lake Huron & the Bruce PeninsulaâI recall being on a ferry there & seeing a tourist brochure which  featured it.
                Ken Walkup
 
From: i*@yahoogroups.com [i*@yahoogroups.com?] On Behalf Of Robert Pries
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [iris-species] ID please
 
My first thought is that this is lacustris. Some botanists have placed lacustris as a subspecies of cristata because they are very very similar. Generally lacustris is much smaller and confined to a small region around Lake Superior and Lake Michigan. But there are very small forms of cristata in limited locations in the Southern USA that would be very hard to tell from the classic lacustris. Good to hear from you Yuri, Sincerely Bob Pries

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yuri Pirogov" <j*@aha.ru>
To: i*@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 4:08:35 AM
Subject: [iris-species] ID please

 
Is this beauty Iris lacustris or Iris cristata?
 
Yuri
in Moscow

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