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So far as I am aware, the "new" edition of A Guide to Species Irises is actually a re-issue with a new introductionÂbut without the color illustrations. I have not seen it.

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I have no problems with the several books which have been mentioned here, with the exception of the Kohlein, which IÂnever recommend to novices. It was as a novice that I discovered it, and I experienced no end of frustration trying to make any sense of it.

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I do not know Dr. Waddick's book, personally.

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The rest of the titles mentioned,ÂI considerÂthe basic book bibliography on the subject, along with the various AIS publications, and some quasi-peripheral materials, like Mathew's book onÂTurkish plants, and the various regional Floras, and botanical or horticultural encyclopedias.

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However, and this, of course, was the point of my previous quip, all of these are getting a bit long in the tooth, and some were notably weak in certain areas to begin with.Â

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In the case ofÂMathew's The Iris, for instance, which is the survey I do recommend, I findÂthe authorÂskirts some material without comment about which I would have much welcomed informed comment, and tends to go vague just when IÂam looking to him for important detail. His treatment of the germanica complex is most disappionting. I often wonder if the bearded European species would be viewed in a differentÂlight among fanciers of Iris species hadÂthey not been theÂprogenitors ofÂtheÂflamboyant garden hybrids.

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Still, Mathew's book is what there is, and with it's faults better than some.

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Of course, exciting new scientific discoveries and developments such as those which interest us, and those which don't,Âtend to appear in the advanced academic or scientificÂpress, or in the literature of taxonomy, or proceedings of international symposia, which too often are not made available to the general public.ÂWe may or may not hear of this sort of thing, unfortunately. When we do, it's often along the tlines that someone has moved I. tuberosa back into the genus.

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WeÂhave need of a moreÂrecent book on the Genus--or Family-- written for the advanced non-professional---or non-specialist, if you prefer.ÂWhether this is likely to appear, given the cynical publishing climate of today, who knows.

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if the original poster could kindly tell us a bit more about what is wanted and to what purpose, I'm sure others would have some interesting and helpful observations. Me, I find the most interesting material to read these days is actually theÂprimary materials. It never does toÂneglect to check Dykes on a subject.

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Cordially,

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From: pat toolan p*@hotmail.com
To: Iris Species i*@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, Jun 5, 2013 12:09 pm
Subject: RE: [iris-species] Recommended Ref

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I second all that Ken has recommended. There is a new edition of: ÂÂA Guide to Species Irises, Edited by The Species Group of the British Iris Society 1997. The original was a costly book at the time but has been well worth it. Another book which I used when I first got hooked was The World of Iridaceae by Clive Innes 1985. One big negative factor in this last book is that you will need to pencil in the Genera at the top of each page if you don't want to pull all your hair out. As to quick requirements, before the first book mentioned above, I photocopied a page from a SIGNA(?) typed sheet pages 63/64 which was a brief guide to the growing of many types of iris species. Too long ago to know when this was but possibly the late 80s or early 90s. I have kept this page in the Innes book since.

Pat

Pat Toolan
PO Box 568,
Angaston
SA 5353
08 85 648 286

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From: k*@astound.net
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:41:48 -0700
Subject: Re: [iris-species] Recommended Ref

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In terms of printed books, I like

 A Guide to Species Irises, Edited by The Species Group of the British Iris Society 1997

I frequently compare it's info to entries in

ÂÂ The Iris, by Brian Mathew, 1989 (reprint with revisions)

and for specifically Chinese iris

ÂÂ Iris of China, by James W. Waddick and Zhao Yu-tang, 1992

For a continental perspective on growing numerous species, a good book is

ÂÂ Iris, by Fritz K Ãhlein, translation to English 1987

Even though some of the names have changed it is sometime nice to go back to Dykes. There is a reduced-size reprint

ÂÂ The Genus Iris, by William Rickatson Dykes, 1974

For a quick reference to species and named varieties, try

ÂÂ S.I.G.N.A. Species Group of North America Checklist of Iris

Ken Walker
Concord, CA USA

On 6/4/2013 12:17 PM, Bill Moyles wrote:

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Is there a recommended ref(s) to the genus ... taxonomy and
descriptive/distribution/etc .... online or? Thanks ... I think I may
be missing a good one ! Bill Moyles, Oakland ....

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