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Re: Iris savannarum


 

Patrick,

     I wonder which that clump that is in my photo really is?  Iris hexagona or Iris savannarum?

Mark A. Cook  


On 3/24/2017 7:48 AM, 'Patrick O'Connor' p*@cox.net [iris-species] wrote:

Sean,

 

Thanks for the response.  The picture looks more like what I think of as I. hexagona as opposed to I. savannarum.

 

I noticed that the Flora of North America recognizes savannarum as a species, and that makes sense to me.  We have a hexagona from South Carolina that blooms with brevicaulis and is very different than what I have seen of savannarum.  I think that perhaps the more northerly East Coast irises are hexagonas and that savannarum occurs further south.

 

I do wonder, by what authority the Flora of North America separated savannarum?  Other authorities don’t recognize it.  How are such decisions made?  Scientific articles such as those by Arnold lump everything except brevicaulis, fulva and (maybe) nelsonii into the  hexagona bucket.  In Louisiana, we wonder about the relationship of I. giganticaerulea to the East Coast irises.  I understand that what constitutes a species follows manmade rules, but I can’t see that giganticaerulea is just a form of hexagona.  It may be closely related (or the same as) I. savannarum, however.  By the way, a few days ago, I visited a field about 20 miles from New Orleans that had so many giganticaeruleas you almost could not avoid stepping on them as you walked.  It is amazing to see them in such a mass.

 

The Flora does not recognize I. nelsonii as a species.  I thought it was settled that nelsonii was a species, so by what authority would the Flora demote it?  Nelsonii surely was derived from fulva, but the small niche it lives in would not be hospitable to fulvas.  Nelsoniis are found in more shade and constant water.  If a fulva were planted back in a swamp with nelsoniis, it would not survive.

 

I keep hoping some scientific research will straighten out the Series Hexagonae.   And that I will understand the report when it is published.

 

Patrick

 



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Mark A. Cook
USDA Zone 8b
Dunnellon, Florida USA


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