Re: I. tectorum and other crested iris--Apology

Walt I owe you an apology. I read this message too quickly and thought you were being critical and didn't realize you were really inteested in a discussion. When I had more time I came back to it and realized I answered innapropriately in haste, please accept my apology.

Now for a better answer, maybe!!
The crested Irises are a very artificial group. Tectorum definitely seems close to bearded Irises. This would imply that Iris japonica, Iris formosana, Iris confusa, and Iris wattii, which are a very tight group and at least some have crossed with tectorum. Iris milesii is considered to be very closely related to tectorum also. Strangely the work at Kew has suggested that milesii is more closely related to the Nepalensis (Iris decora). Somehow I have a hard time accepting that one. All the rest of the crested species seem to be related more closely to the beardless Irises. Iris speculatrix has been considered a crested iris in the past but is currently placed with the series chinenses. I am inclined to believe that Iris tenuis, Iris gracilipes, Iris cristata, and Iris lacustris are all closer to the chinenses than any other series of Limniris. I very much wish that crosses between these crested species and the chineses could be attempted. Of corse another possibility might be a relationship with Iris verna. Maybe these all have some relationship that would allow them to cross. If these crosses are attempted even negative results would be interesting, although it would require a large number of negative attempts before one could have confidence in that as an indicator of less affinity.
 

waltseed2 <waltseed2@yahoo.com> wrote:


I got the SIGNA magazine a couple of days ago, and thanks for an
excellent job. I edit an heirloom garden seed newsletter, so I know
how hard it can be just to get one out. To do so as well as is being
done is even harder, I'm sure.
About the artical on the taxonomy, I noted that the crested iris are
with the beardless iris, not the bearded ones. It is noted that I.
tectorum does cross with the bearded iris, and it might be moved
there in the future.
But I. tectorum crosses with some other crested iris, if my memory
serves me. So would they also be transferred? Or perhaps the
crested group is an artificial group that needs to be split?
What do those who know more than me think? This would be all of you,
so jump in and tell me.
Walter





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