FW: Vic- Iris nelsonii "Magenta Rose"


 

 

From: i*@yahoogroups.com [i*@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 4:23 PM
To: i*@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [iris-species] Vic- Iris nelsonii "Magenta Rose"

Hi, Vic.   Did you attach the wrong picture?   That iris looks a bit li! ke ‘Edith Dupre’ which probably is a fulva hybrid of yellow fulva on red.  It’s and old one, from 1943 and probably something that Ken Durio sold.

Patrick

From: i*@yahoogroups.com [i*@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 3:16 PM
To: SIGNA-Spiris Group
Subject: [iris-species] Vic- Iris nelsonii "Magenta Rose"

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The iris in the attached photo taken! on 11/7/15 in my garden was obtained from the late Ken Durio (Louisiana Nursery) in 1999, labeled as Iris nelsonii ‘Magenta Rose’.  When kept well-watered during the summer it will repeat bloom in the fall.  It probably is a Louisiana Iris hybrid, but I am somewhat skeptical that it should be considered to be I. nelsonii.   Its leaves are shorter and wider than the typical I. nelsonii plants I am familiar with.  And the bloom stalk has the typical zigzag I. brevicaulis pattern. 

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Posted by: "Patrick O'Connor" <p*@cox.net>

 

Gorgeous!

You should also know that MAGENTA ROSE is a TB registered in 1976 by Gibson and introduced a year later.

You might want to give it an official name.

Thanks

John
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Many thanks ! to Patrick and John for commenting on my email of 11/10/15 “Fall ! blooming Louisiana ‘Magenta Rose.’

 

Patrick, you asked: if I had attached the wrong picture?   No, it was the photo I intended to post.  I have in excess of 100 clones of Louisiana irises in my garden, many of which are species clones that I collected in the wild.  The iris in the photo was obtained (purchased) in 1999 by me in person from Ken Durio in person at his Nursery in Opelousas Louisiana. At that time I was very desirous of obtaining some wild-type nelsonii clones since that was the one Louisiana species I knowingly never had the opportunity to view in the wild.  And, since it was summer, it was not in bloom when I obtained it.  Ken in his 2001-2002 catalog (Louisiana Nursery our 51th year 2001 -2002 Catalog of Daylilies, Louisiana Iris and Other Irises, 118 pp.) lists a “Ir! is x nelsonii ‘Magenta Rose’ – a pretty, magenta-rose flowered form with gold, line signals collected by W. B. MacMillian” which I presumed was the iris I had obtained.

 

Until, Patrick used the name, I was totally unaware that there was such a thing as a Louisiana Iris “Edith Dupre” in existence.  Ken’s 2001-2002 catalog lists “Edith Dupre (Arceneaux ’45) E 2’ – a canary yellow flower with an orange-red overcast),” thus, it seems possible that he could of mistakenly given me the iris ‘Edith Dupre.’  Zydeco Gardens’ website www.zydecoirises.com/  has two photos of ‘Edith Dupre.’  ! One illustrates the flower while the other one illustrates the plant bl! ooming. Their website describes ‘Edith Dupre’ as:

 

R1945, George Arceneaux.  27", E.  The registration description: "Canary yellow with orange-red overcast; canary yellow style arms; small yellow crest. I. fulva type."  A hybrid but apparently between red and yellow collected forms of I. fulva, making it essentially a species form.  Great color contrast between the styles and petals.  Bazeti X Maringouin fulva (yellow).”

 

Also, the American Iris Society Encyclopedia wiki.irises.org/bin/view/La/LaEdithDupre  has the entry:

 

“(LA) 'Edith Dupre' 1945, Arceneaux 'Edith Dupre' (George Arceneaux, R. 1945) LA. Early bloom. Color Class S7D. 'Bazeti' x 'Maringouin Ye! llow'. Recorded as Vinie in 49 Checklist; Class renamed Louisiana Iris.”

 

I now believe that what I have might be ‘Edith Dupre’ or something closely related to it.  Does anyone know if ‘Edith Dupre’ repeat-blooms in the fall?  Also, based on the posted internet photos, what I have seems to have shorter wider leaves and a bloom stalk with more of a zigzag pattern than ‘Edith Dupre.’  But details ascertained from photos may sometimes be somewhat misleading.  

 

Also, attached is anothe! r photo of the plant, what-ever it is, blooming in my garden on 11/11/15.

 

Vic

 


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