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Re: Life Memberships: Expedited Search


 

Good one, Sandy!  How deep have you planted your pseudatas?
 
El, Ste Anne, Manitoba, Canada

From: r*@rogers.com
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:47 AM
To: i*@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [iris-species] Life Memberships: Expedited Search

 

Just to help your search along... I'm still lurking.

I've been doing a fair amount of wood-turning though because we need the mulch for the pseudatas,

On the road

Sandy Ives in Ottawa

On 2011-10-02, at 7:45, i*@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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Re: SIGNA member passing

Posted by: "C*@aol.com" C*@aol.com

Sat Oct 1, 2011 8:47 am (PDT)




That's right.

Furthermore, any person holding a Life Membership who is also associated with an institution or commercial entity needs to be followed even more closely, assuming the SIGNA membership rules are the same as those of AIS so that only people, and not corporate entities, which never die, can hold Life Membership.

I had a situation where a US nurseryman had held an individual Life died and no one said anything. One day I ran into the name in the database. This was someone whom I'd tried to contact a couple of years earlier in relation to some research work I was doing, but I'd been told then by his son, who inherited the business, that he was dead. We'd been sending the Bulletin, of course, and I am sure everyone enjoyed it, and would have continued to enjoy it for many years to come, until someone observed that that particular AIS Life Member was looking nigh on immortal.

It's not necessarily someone chiseling a cheap advantage who fails to notify AIS of a death, professionals may receive a lot of literature, some of it freebies, and it may not be clear to their survivors that their membership expired with their death.

You just have to do what you have to do to get the files straight and eliminate wasted money. Sane people grasp immediately that you do not want to send literature to the dead, although cranks may bitch, because that is what cranks do. Bitching, however, is a reliable indication the member is alive, which is just what you are trying to find out.

AMW

-----Original Message-----
From: Rodney Barton <
rbartontx@yahoo.com>
To: iris-species <iris-species@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 8:44 pm
Subject: Re: [iris-species] SIGNA member passing

Hi Anner,

Good thought! I've made a start. Tom shared AIS's list of deceased members. I struck 3 more names and got explanations for another 3 whose mail had bounced at some time in the past. Every penny counts these days!

Rod

From: "ChatOWhitehall@aol.com" <ChatOWhitehall@aol.com>
To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [iris-species] SIGNA member passing

Sahin died in the fall of 2006.

You know, it might be worthwhile to confirm all SIGNA Life Memberships.

When I was handling membership for AIS I decided to confirm the status of each AIS Life Membership, and was well I did because we were sending Bulletins to people who had been dead for years. Families don't always let you know about this sort of thing, especially if someone is enjoying the magazine.

There were not that many Overseas AIS Life Members, maybe ten or fifteen, so I simply wrote each one with whom I had not recently dealt personally a letter, saying I was sure they would agree that we should spend AIS' money in the most constructive way possible, and to that end I was seeking to validate the mailing list. I asked them please to let me know they were well and receiving their mailings in a timely manner.

Now, if I received no response to this letter, I sent another, advising that I must hear from them or I'd be obliged to stop sending the Bulletin until I could confirm it was going to the correct recipient. If there was still no response, I stopped the Bulletin, and wrote a third letter telling them I'd done so.

As it happens, everyone overseas who responded at all responded immediately and cheerfully. In fact, the Overseas Life Members were more cooperative than some of the USA LIfe Members, who appeared to have thought that becoming a Life Member was sort of like buying one's way into an elite country club, so that the very suggestion that they might actually have up and died without telling AIS was somehow grossly insulting---really, I'm not kidding, too bizarre and too funny-- anyway, I touched base with the Overseas Life Members personally, and I think there were two, perhaps three, whom I struck from the rolls-- and they were the ones I thought looked problematical going into the survey. A lot of money was subsequently saved on postage, I can assure you,

Never take anyone else's word that someone else is alive.

AMW



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