Re: 'Swerti' spelling

 

I got curious when i should be out planting a tree. But i found another reference to Mitic and added it to the Encyclopedia. It raises more questions that I do not have time to research. The paper in Phyton apparently names a new Iris adriatica but it would appear that this is a renaming of Iris pseudopumila and a couple of other papers suggest that this may also be confused with a new species ??? Iris orjenii. Seems the more one reads the more confusing the literature. It would be nice to see the full papers. But no time today, frost is coming soon and I have plants to bring in.

From: "Chuck Chapman" <irischapman@aim.com>
To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:02:31 AM
Subject: RE: [iris-species] 'Swerti' spelling

 

Here are his English papers.A number of others in  Croatian language, but I suspect duplicates.

 Mitic, B., Nikolic, T. and  Libeer, Z. 2001. Morphological and Karylogical Relationships within Alpine-dinaric populations of the genus Iris L Pallidea series(A.. Kern) trinajstic  Acta Societatis Botanicorum Poloniea  Vol 70, No 3:221-227

    Mitic, B., Pavletic Z. 1999 Comparative morphological analysis of the Genus Iris L., series Pallidea (A. Kern) trinajstic (Iridecea) Nat. Croatia. 8(4):369-384

    Mitic, B., Nikolic, T., Libeer, Z., Trinajstic,I., and Pavletic, Z.1999. Morphological  Relationships within Alpine-dinaric populations of the genus Iris L Pallidea series(A.. Kern) trinajstic (iridecea). Period Biol. 101(2):245-251

    Mitic, B., Nikolic, T. and  Libeer, Z. 2000. Morphological and anatomical relationships within Alpine-dinaric populations of the genus Iris L Pallidea series(A.. Kern) Trinajstic     (Iridecea) Acta Soc. Bot. Pol. 69(4):285-291

    Mitic, B., Nikolic, T., Trinajstic, I. & Pavletic Z 2001 Karylogical analysis of the Alpine-dinaric populations of the Genus Iris L., Pallidea series (A. Kern) trinajstic (Iridecea) Biotopkartierung in Bergregionen Satueria 11:395-414
    
    Mitic, B., Pavletic Z.2001 Iris cengialti Ambr. (Irideacea) in Slovenia- karyological analyses Hladnikia 13:159-166

    Rusak, G, Mitic, B. And Liber, Z.2005 Leaf flavonoid patterns in the Croatian endemic species Iris illyrica Tomm. and I. Pseudopallida Trinajstic (Irideceae) Period Biol.


Chuck Chapman

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From: David Ferguson <manzano57@msn.com>
To: iris-species <iris-species@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 26, 2011 12:38 am
Subject: RE: [iris-species] 'Swerti' spelling

 
Chuck,

Can you list citations?  I have been able to find only one taxonomic paper by this author.  It describes a single species of the pallida complex as new (and I don't find the distinction particularly convincing in and of itself - yet).  Are these papers written in English?  I have to admit that I can't read Croatian :0)

Thanks,
Dave

To: i*@yahoogroups.com
From: i*@aim.com
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 00:23:29 -0400
Subject: RE: [iris-species] 'Swerti' spelling

 
Bozena Mitic, botanist with University of Zagreb in Croatia has studied pallida and related species very, very intensively over several decades. He has also had many, many other people collecting  pallida and related species for him over full range of its distribution. No reports of anything remotely like  what we know of as cultivar "Iris sweertii" no reports of any wild location. just  in gardens where most likely were pallida and variagata collected species. One study had over 400 cultivars collected from numerous different locations. He has published many papers. I have copies of ten of these papers.

I had also made test cross of Iris pallida kupari with  regular Iris pallida.  Seedlings were just a variation on a theme of bicolours and pallida blues. Over 50 seedlings in this cross. I also made cross of "Iris sweeertii" with I. pallida. No plicatas in these seedlings either. I'll have to include these crosses in the paper as well.

If plicata genes were  in Iris pallida it would have shown up much before now, and definitely should have reveled themselves in these test crosses.

What is showing is  a result of combining genetics of  I. variagata  with genes of I. pallida.

Plicata  pattern  isn't a single trait. It is a combination of genes. My other research shows this definitely. The particular traits are still being pinned down, but I'm fairly sure of what  they are but not of all the details and implications. But this info is being kept under hat pending further research.  A slow reveal. This paper on the species cross is the first reveal. (actually the second one. The first  is a bit sneaky as I didn't mention plicata). Too much new info to do it in one go.

Chuck Chapman

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