HYB: Arilbreds as Parents
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- Subject: HYB: Arilbreds as Parents
- From: D* E*
- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:38:08 -0500
Hello Folks,
Quarterbreds, halfbreds, 3/4 breds and arils. These are what
I've been trying to use. Frankly, again this year the success
rate is not good considering the amount of time spent gathering
pollen and daubing. For whatever reasons, there hasn't been a
wealth of fluffy pollen, but I've scrounged anything that looked
like it might be usable. I clearly have had little fortune in getting
anything in the aril family to set pods. It looks as tho two pods
on ANACRUSIS are all that was successful. And after some
difficult (for me) homework :). For some reason, the success
rate using pollen on TBs is better. Why? KOKO KNOLL seems
again this year to have potent ability to set pods on TBs. But
not on another arilbred. The arilbred bloom season is winding
down, so the chances of getting pods on them gets slimmer
every day. However, there are pods on TBs using the collected
pollen already forming. How long will it stay viable in the envelopes?
I know Walter was freezing his, but I haven't done that. Planning
crosses didn't get me much so far, serendipity still at work this
year.
Donald Eaves
donald@eastland.net
Texas Zone 7, USA who had to go to the Canadian Iris Society to
find the correct subject tag. I remember using my printout for a book
marker, but can't remember which book, catalog, or whatever else is
in this pile by the computer I used it in. Thank you, Chris.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon McAllister <73372.1745@compuserve.com>
To: INTERNET:iris-talk@egroups.com <iris-talk@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, April 13, 2000 12:19 AM
Subject: [iris-talk] AR: Quarterbreds as Parents
>Message text written by Bill Shear:
>
>>
>Finally a question I am sure Sharon can answer--besides ARIL LADY, what
>fertile quarterbreds have been used in further breeding? Are there many of
>them?<
>
>Yes -- so many that the rules were changed to disallow registration of
>anything less than 1/4 aril as an arilbred.
>
>Quarterbreds as a class have been described as both relatively infertile
>and partially fertile. That's viewing the glass as half-empty or half-
>full. Used with either TBs or halfbreds, they rarely produce more that
>half-a-dozen seeds per pod, one or two offspring that survive to bloom size
>-- but that was enough to interest hybridizers in the days before fully
>fertile halfbreds were widely available. Some of the historic quarterbreds
>with registered offspring:
>
>AMERICAN MODERN
>BLUE OX
>BUTTERFLY WINGS [quite prolific]
>ELMOHR [quite prolific]
>FARCROSS
>GRACE MOHR
>HEIGHO
>LADY MOHR [quite prolific]
>MOHR MAJESTY
>MOHRSON
>MOONCHILD
>N. J. THOMAS
>ORMOHR [quite prolific]
>PINEAPPLE SHERBERT
>PURRISIMOHR
>
>After the quantum system was adopted, there was no longer any point in
>crossing quarterbreds with TBs, but many continued to use them with
>halfbreds in quest of something that would compete with quarterbreds but
>have more aril traits than the typical quarterbred. Many have been used a
>few times, but four immediately come to mind as especially prolific:
>
>BLUE GATE
>GENETIC BURST
>JOINT VENTURE
>LP-62-126 [a Peterson seedling that shows up in a number of pedigrees]
>
>Some justifiably consider work with quarterbreds a waste of time, because
>they don't fit into the conventional program. They prefer the easier path
>of working within the fertile family of halfbreds -- more seedlings, more
>predictable results.
>
>My own philosophy is "nothing ventured, nothing gained." A quarterbred
>with traits worth passing on is certainly worth crossing and I've found
>them especially useful with tetraploid arils.
>
>If you enjoy exploring the unknown, don't be discouraged by the naysayers
>-- as long as you understand that you're choosing the path less traveled
>you can be open to fascinating discoveries along the way!
>
>Sharon McAllister
>73372.1745@compuserve.com
>
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