Re: MTB vs. BB

Wabash is similar to the ones I'm talking about, but it qualifies as a full
fledged tetraploid TB.  I think it has a lot of the same ancestry as the
somewhat smaller diploids that resemble it though.

Here's a partial but moderately long list of the ones I'm thinking of, should
give a pretty good idea of which ones I mean.  I suspect that nearly all are
diploids.  Botanically I would call most of them I. x sambucina (hybrids of I.
pallida and I. variegata), but that can cause confusion for those not used to
thinking of them from a taxonomic / botanic point of view, and rather as
individual entities (sambucina is also the name of an individual cultivar - or
group of similar cultivars).   In my lists, I've taken to calling them "x
sambucina" or "large MTB".  They vary as to the classes in which they
officially registered, and I have not kept track of that in this list.  Some
may not really belong to this group, but most fit together well as a group,
and are rather uncomfortable in other groups (at least I think so).

Dave

'Amoena'

'Anne Leslie'

'Apache'

'Archeveque'

'Argent'

'Aurea'

?'Autumn Orange Light'

'Ballerine'

'Bhutan Glory'

'Black Prince'

'B. Y. Morrison'

'Caprice'

'Chelsea Turner'

'Col. Candelot'

?'Crown Prince'

?'Decennial'

'Demi Deuil'

'Drady'

'Eclador'

'Edina'

'Faustine'

'Flammenschwert'

'Flavescens'

'Fro'

'Gajus'

'Gay Hussar'

'Geomori'

'Goldfish'

'Gold Imperial'

'Gracchus'

'Gypsy Queen'

'Her Majesty'

'Honorabile'

'Iduna'

'Iris King'

'Isoline'

'Jacquesiana'

'Joseph's Coat'

?'Joyance'

'Kaleidoscope'

'Kashmiriana' (of hort., not the "species")

'Little Freak'

'Little Wabash'

'Lodestar'

'Loreley'

'Lurida'

'Lycaena'

'Madame Chobaut'

'Marsh Marigold'

'Meadowlark'

'Mexicana'

'Mockingbird'

'Monsignor'

'Mrs. Andrist'

'Mrs. Horace Darwin'

'Mrs. Marion Cran'

'Mrs. Neubronner

'Navajo'

'Neglecta'

'Othello'

'Quaker Lady'

'Queen of May'

'Peggy Babbington'

'Perfection'

'Persian Lantern'

?'Pfauenouge' (haven't seen the real one yet)

?'Picador'

'Pretty Butterfly'

'Princess Viktoria Luise'

'Prosper Laugier'

?'Rajah'

'Red Cloud'

'Red Orchid'

'Rhages'

'Rhein Nixe'

'Rhythm'

'Romeo'

'Rota'

'Sambucina'

'Sambucina' (Dinar Mountains)

'Squalens'

'Sherwin Wright'

'Spanish Coins'

'Taj Mahal'

'Troost'

'Venus de Milo'

'Vingolf'

'Virginia Moore'

'W. J. Fryer'

'Whoop Em Up'



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Showtime Farm
  To: iris@hort.net
  Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 2:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [iris] MTB vs. BB


  hmm,  rambings on classification...

  I heard someone say of a NOID recently that it was too tall to be WABASH;
is
  W one of the cv's you're talking about?  How tall is W supposed to be.

  Christian
  ky

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