Re: Are they really all REALLY different? Well, no!

Wow Debby,
   
  that was very articulate.  It's an idea I have found difficult to express in my own mind.  
   
  My planned crosses involve repeating crosses that other hybridizers have made.  Naturally there are some who think this is trying to re-invent the wheel.  However, genes can sort in an infinite variety even from the same parents so each seedling is unique at least genetically.  
   
  Having said that, however, I'm still a big fan of the uniqueness showing up in the pheno-type.  Irises differ from dogs in that with the iris we can cut off a piece of a desireable individual and share it around.  Since many people grow irises without being fan, fancier or ...(drat I wasn't paying enough attention to that thread)... it may not be such a good thing for the iris market to be filled up with irises that all look the same no matter how well they meet the standard or contribute genetically.
   
  Perhaps.
   
  Christian

  
Debby <totallyterriers@gmail.com> wrote:
  Okay, coming at this from a different point of view (I don't breed
iris, but I do breed dogs).

I agree, there are a lot of very similar looking iris out there, but
is that really an issue? As far as hybridizing them goes I mean.

In breeding dogs the idea is to breed to a written standard. You are
basically trying to get all of them to look alike in other words.
Being alike isn't a bad thing... they each offer something different
to the gene pool as breeders are working from various bloodlines.

So... are iris that different? So you have 100 iris that have pale
blue standards and dark blue falls and they all have orange beards.
Aren't different breeders using different crosses to achieve these
plants? Don't they have varied genetic backgrounds which each might
pull something different forward that the breeder can use to achieve
his or her goal? I can see some of the "duplicate" looking plants
might have limited value to the person who just wants some lovely
plants to bloom the their garden (much like the person who just wants
a good-looking, healthy pet and doesn't care if I've imported breeding
stock from the U.K. or Australia), but isn't the gentic diversity
important to the future of iris? Or am I muissing something?

Debby





On 8/16/07, Gesine wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> But reading old AIS bulletins you'll see periodic
> "we're introducing too many too-similar cultivars"
> discussions. Personally, I think this is more
> true *now* when the iris field has gotten much
> bigger than in the historic past.
>
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