Re: iris DIGEST V1 #207

Merry Cristmas and a flowerful 2005,
Willy Hublau, Belgium
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Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 6:45 PM
Subject: [iris] iris DIGEST V1 #207



iris DIGEST Friday, December 24 2004 Volume 01 : Number 207



In this issue:

       [iris] RE:CD
       Re: [iris] HYB: seed germination
       [none]
       [iris] RE:HYB: seed germination
       Re: [iris] RE:Cult;: Canadian Streaker Seedlings

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:52:43 -0600
From: "Char Holte" <cholte@wi.rr.com>
Subject: [iris] RE:CD

Hi Margaret,

I have two different CD'.

One set of two from California Dreamin' for $20 and $2 shipping.  It has
over 800 photo's, mostly Iris and a few people.

The other set if of Portland, Medians and More 2004 for $10 and $2 shipping.
This one has over 500 Photo's and is mostly Iris with a few people and
gardens.

Thanks, Char



- -----Original Message-----
From: info@suttoniris.com [i*@suttoniris.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:58 PM
To: Char Holte
Subject: Re: HELP AGAIN MARGARET PLEASE



Hi Char,



Somehow I missed how we can order the CD. Would you tell me please?



Margaret

- ----- Original Message -----

From: Char Holte <c*@wi.rr.com>

To: Mike Sutton <i*@suttoniris.com>

Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:39 PM

Subject: HELP AGAIN MARGARET PLEASE



Hi Margaret,

Would you identify the gardens/homes in the pictures attached?  If you
would refer to the number on the picture that would help me.

Thanks, Char

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:25:01 EST
From: Autmirislvr@aol.com
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: seed germination

In a message dated 12/22/2004 3:33:20 PM Central Standard Time,
lmann@volfirst.net writes:

germination

Linda, If it makes you feel any better, my seed were in the deep freeze
yesterday. Today they are still in the deep freeze but are being soaked. <bg>

In other words . . . they are outside! They were frozen, then it rained all
day yesterday. They froze again last night, but now they have a thick layer
of snow on top of the pots. (I can see them but can't visit them.) It is
currently 19 degrees.


Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6
Bridge In Time Iris Garden@website:
www.thegardensite.com/irises/bridgeintime/
Reblooming Iris - Home Page
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:53:27 -0500
From: irischapman@netscape.net
Subject: [iris] RE:HYB: seed germination

Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:31:27 -0500
From: Linda Mann <lmann@volfirst.net>
Subject: [iris] HYB: seed germination

Of the 34 crosses stratified in the fridge for 3 months (no toilet tank
soaking before refrigerating this time), 14 germinated.  I will have to
go back and check, but I think that's a higher percentage of crosses
than past experiments.

However, germination was very low - generally one to five percent,
pretty much what I used to get from most crosses when planting seeds
outdoors in the fall to stratify naturally over the winter and germinate
in the spring.

I have no idea whether the lower germination this year compared to last
is due to differences in weather & varmints on pod and seed development,
lack of seed pre-soaking in the toilet tank, temperatures when they were
taken out of the fridge and potted or ?  No rotting apples providing
ethylene ....

One cross - IC4:cream seedling (IMMORTALITY x CELEBRATION SONG) X TRANS
ORANGE - germinated about half the seeds.  My notes say "9 seeds in this
pod, all bad".  So much for relevant observations on seed appearance!
<g>

There may be a lot more germination in the spring from most of these
crosses after a second round of chilling outdoors starting next month.
Hopefully getting back up to last year's average of around 30%.

I now have seedlings under lights. I got about 145 pots out of 150 with germination. At least 50% of seeds in each pot. These were planted in flats holding 10 planting trays each. They had been outside in garage last winter but poor germination. These ones had been put in fridge for abour 3 1/2 months, then in unheated greenhouse for about one month where they just sulked. Now inside under lights and growing like crazy. Photo posted on iris-photos.

Chuck Chapman


I sure hope I don't have to go back to the toilet tank soaking.  That is
a nuisance. :-(

The pots are all on the enclosed sun porch now staying "warm" for a
month.  I will pot up the babies, push them along with Miracle Gro, then
return the pots to nature in Jan/Feb, bring them back inside if more
start germinating & push them with fertilizer and warmer temps on the
sun porch.
- - --
Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:52:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Walter Pickett <waltseed2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [iris] RE:Cult;: Canadian Streaker Seedlings

I have read of two (non-iris) plants being grown to maturity.
One was grafted onto a non-albino. That was alfalfa, both the albino and what it was grafted on. Now that I think of it, many albino cactus are grown that way.
The other albino plant I know of being grown to maturity was an African violet, Sainpaulia sp. It was grown by turnig it upside down daily, at least daily, and spraying it with a sugar-water solution, mixed with fungicide. Most pores in the leaves are on the bottom, at least on African violets. And I think it was kept in a sterile chamber, but I am not sure.
The albino iris are dying of lack of sugar, I'm sure. So getting sugar in is the thing to do. Or find out the difference between the albino and normal leaves and supply the chemical that stimulates the chloriphyl production. That is assuming that the iris do have the code for chlorophyl.
Walter

irischapman@netscape.net wrote:
A copy of meesage received and reply sent.

Does anyone have some ideas re feeding these white seedlings so they will survive a bit longer. Perhaps some ideas re a foliar fertilizer?

Chuck Chapman

I don't have any special treatments. They are close to lights. Perhaps some extra plant food so they survive long enough to produce chlorophyl in those capable of it may help. As there is a tendency for Canadian Streaker to throw green increases perhaps some of these guys will green up. Hope springs eternal.
You should post this on iris-talk and perhaps someone else will have some ideas to try.
Or will you give me permision to post it?

Chuck

crook wrote:

Hello Chuck:

Do you do anything special to try and encourage your
near albinos to produce some chlorophyll?

I have one lily cultivar [a species] that as pod
parent produces some near albinos [about 7 or 8
percent of it`s seedlings].

I did manage to carry one seedling through last
winter and it ended up producing a bit of chlorophyll.
Enough? I woun`t know until next spring. Others I
managed to keep going for as long as 6 or 7 weeks,
that is after losing the first few fairly quick.

I have some near albinos again from the same pod
parent this year, one [now five weeks old] has greened
up by about 25 percent, I woun`t lose it. This is much
more then the one I managed to grow through last
winter which only managed to green up by about 10
percent. The other two are about a week and a half old
and are taking on a cream-ish looking tint, which in
my experience [although quite limited] is a faze they
go through before any green starts appearing.

I`v achieved this by placing them closer to the light
source, about 4 inches from the florescent tube and
directly under it.

I would very much like to hear what you have
attempted to keep your Iris seedlings of this type
growing.

Darm - where it only got down to -28C. last night
with a forecast low of -32c. tonight. One hour north
of the 60th. latitude.

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