Re: HYB: Eliminating plicata influence

 Haft marks are not a result of plicata genes. It is often associated with plicata,

?but it is a serindipious  relationship. As haft marks are not a disruptive effect

?on plicata flowers, it was never selected against as it was in the selfs. Thus it

?often is there in their ofspring, but not as a direct result of the plicata genes.

There are quite a few plicata offspring without disruptive haft marks. These offspring

?are more obvious in SDB then in TB. 



To remove haft marks, select  plants with the cleanes hafts. 



A number of zonal plants, are entirely plicata . the relationship hasn't been proven, 

but it is there. Ther are a nuber of solid coloured  plants that are 100% plicata. I have 

written an article on this but havn't submited it for publication yet.



Chuck Chapman



Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:15:05 EST

From: Autmirislvr@aol.com
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB:  Eliminating plicata influence

In a message dated 12/10/2006 3:17:54 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
tasquierloic@cs.com writes:





<<But if you go through all the children of Epicenter on the  register, well, 

most of them have lots of stripes on the  falls.>>

 

They do not have to have stripes on the falls to carry plicata, or to show  

plicata.  With the dark ones, a simple white spot at the tip of the beard  is 

evidence.  How many knew that Laced Cotton is a plicata?  If we  didn't know . 

. . I don't remember anything but beige plicatas when I crossed it  to Autumn 

Encore.  And they made huge clumps quickly.  

 

Ozark Rebounder:  Again, I've owned it since it was introduced.   It grows 

and blooms well here.  I find the black a bit too dull  for my taste, but that 

is MY taste.  There are white lines beside the  beard.  But the test would be 

the children, when crossed to a  plicata.  Since it comes from Epicenter, I 

think we know the answer to that  question without making the cross.  

Ordinarily, 

we could expect the plicata  gene to carry for several generation.  I'm 

looking for instances where the  plicata has dropped out.  

 

This had nothing to do with ugly or pretty.  It's a matter of  personal 

taste, like everything else.  I like some plicatas and dislike  others.  My 

preferences tend to run to the red on yellow, or the plum or  black on clean 

white, 

but those are just MY preferences.  I'm more than  happy to pile on the plicata 

genes in these lines.  Especially reblooming  plicatas!  <vbg> 

 

Please remember I simply asked questions.  I am searching for genetic  

gateways to possibilities and choices.  I am attempting to IDENTIFY the  plicata 



genes in rebloomers (some) so I make an educated decision about their  use.  Not 



totally eliminate them as interpreted.  

 

Many, if not most, rebloomers carry the plicata gene.  The use of  Memphis 

Lass established the plicata genes in many of the hardy  rebloomers.  I'd like a 



line of selfs, and bitones WITHOUT the haft marks,  spots around the tip of 

the beard etc.  Personal taste.  And I'd like  them all to have red beards!  

(joking!)

 

In no way am I suggesting that others should change anything they are  

breeding.  Just as I would wonder why anyone would try to discourage me  from 

producing a plicata free line . . . if I can.  Or if I choose. 

 

 









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Betty W.  in South-central KY Zone 6 ---If you don't cross them, you can't 

plant them!  

Bridge In Time Iris Garden@website:





   
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