Re: AIS eligibility or not: 'Decadence' & 'Slovak Prince'
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  • Subject: Re: AIS eligibility or not: 'Decadence' & 'Slovak Prince'
  • From: &* t* <t*@cs.com>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:43:44 +0100
Thanks for this clarification. The 2007 Hanbook for Judges and Show officials
is actually burning in the fire-place.
Not hoping for an accurate update anymore!

Sorry i caused such a turmoil, but how could i know the last edition that i
bought in January this year was not to be trusted.
Id'like someone to tell  the A.I.S. Storefront to take it off from the
shelves:


Handbook for Judges and Show Officials
The Handbook for Judges and Show Officials, Seventh Edition,
$12.00 for INSERT (complete update). USA/CANADA/INTERNATIONAL
(Same cover will be used as the Sixth Edition.)
$15.00 for INSERT w/COVER. USA/CANADA/INTERNATIONAL




I guess i can't be hoping for a refund of my $15 !

loic
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: John I Jones
  To: iris@hort.net
  Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [iris] AIS eligibility or not: 'Decadence' & 'Slovak Prince'


  ACK. Maureen is correct. Mea Culpa. Worse yet I actually made the
  motion.

  The Board resolved that:

  **That the eligibility of irises for the American Dykes Medal be
  reaffirmed as:  "The American Dykes Medal is awarded annually by the
  British Iris Society through The American Iris Society and is
  restricted to irises first originated and introduced in the United
  States or Canada.  Irises originated elsewhere, although not eligible
  for the American Dykes Medal, are eligible for other AIS awards
  provided that the iris was first introduced in the United States or
  Canada."



  On Dec 15, 2009, at 8:08 AM, <Maureen.Mark@fin.gc.ca>
  <Maureen.Mark@fin.gc.ca> wrote:

  > John,
  >
  > I don't recall the exact wording, but the discussion at the Fall board
  > meeting suggested that the Dykes could only be awarded to an iris of
  > North American origin.  There was some discussion of what constituted
  > American origin  -- seed pod set in Australia and grown in the US vs
  > seed pod set in North America and grown in Australia.
  >
  > Irises first introduced in North America would continue to be eligible
  > for other AIS awards.
  >
  > Maureen Mark
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
  > John
  > I Jones
  > Sent: December 15, 2009 10:53 AM
  > To: iris@hort.net
  > Subject: Re: [iris] AIS eligibility or not: 'Decadence' & 'Slovak
  > Prince'
  >
  > On Dec 15, 2009, at 5:51 AM, Robert Pries wrote:
  >
  >> Loic: The ,first introduction, is a requirement to enter the awards
  >> system of AIS. Decadence is in that system and has already won an
  >> award of merit. It is eligible for the highest Americam award the
  >> Wister Medal but as was said in an earlier post the Dykes is given
  >> by the British and their requirement is that it be an American
  >> hybridizer.
  >
  > NO, there is no requirement that the hybridizer be "American" only
  > that the iris be "first introduced in the United States or Canada
  >
  > REGARDLESS OF ORIGIN"  (uppercase added by author for emphasis)
  >
  > John
  >
  >
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message -----
  >> From: "loic tasquier" <tasquierloic@cs.com>
  >> To: iris@hort.net
  >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:37:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
  >> Eastern
  >> Subject: [iris] AIS eligibility or not: 'Decadence' & 'Slovak Prince'
  >>
  >>    If the North American Dykes Medal has reached such high
  >> standards during
  >> all these years, it's thanks to thorough regulations, and as i said
  >> before,
  >> this is an amazing achievement.
  >> But the world has been changing fast, particularly this last
  >> decade, and some
  >> painful decisions will have to be made concerning potential
  >> contenders to the
  >> North American Dykes Medal, that won't be allowed to compete
  >> according to
  >> these essential rules:
  >>
  >> Most people think that 'Decadence' is a serious contender to the
  >> North
  >> American Dykes Medal but they will be surprised when they realize
  >> that since
  >> the North American Dykes Medal is restricted to irises first
  >> introduced in the
  >> United States or Canada, 'Decadence' cannot compete in this category.
  >>
  >> It has been introduced in Australia by Tempo Two in 2004 and in
  >> Oregon By
  >> Keppel the same year:
  >>
  >> 'Decadence'  (Barry Blyth, R. 2001). Sdlg. H83-G. TB, 38" (96 cm), M.
  >> S. creamy apricot, faint rose midrib flush; style arms creamy
  >> apricot; F.
  >> light plum burgundy, 1/4" creamy apricot edge; beards tangerine;
  >> heavily
  >> ruffled and laced. 'Temple of Time' X 'Louisa's Song'. Keppel,
  >> Tempo Two 2004,
  >> 2004/05.
  >>
  >> Since i was not introduced in North America before being introduced
  >> elsewhere,
  >> no medal.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> There is another contestant from abroad, 'Slovak Prince' :
  >>
  >> 'Slovak Prince' (Anton Mego, R. 2002). Sdlg. AM-93/0038. TB,
  >> 33" (85 cm), M.
  >> S. white shaded orchid lavender, slight blue veining, 1/8" gold
  >> rim; style
  >> arms silver lavender veined blue, gold edge; F. dark velvety blue
  >> purple,
  >> slightly lighter rim, white area around gold beard with purple
  >> veining
  >> changing to brown; ruffled; slight sweet fragrance. 'Edith Wolford'
  >> X 'Queen
  >> in Calico'. Aitken 2003.
  >>
  >> It has been introduced by Aiken in 2003, therefore, this one is
  >> eligible.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Whether the rule applies, and it applies for all, or not.
  >>
  >>
  >> Loic
  >>
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