Re: TB: Broken Color, Thornbird, etc.
- Subject: Re: [iris-talk] TB: Broken Color, Thornbird, etc.
- From: R* T*
- Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 20:08:18 PST
From: "Rusty Thornsburg" <rtburg@hotmail.com>
Quote:
>Do I understand you to imply that because Bill Shear had not
>attended Judges Training he was arrogant and without authority in
>voicing his opinion of the worthiness of thornbird as a Dykes
>Medal Winner?
No. You misunderstood.
Quote:
>As a relatively new member of AIS I find that troubling. Do the
>years of membership in AIS (which I assume Mr Shear probably has)
>and the fact he has written a book on Iris highly endorsed by
>many on this list and perhaps grown Iris longer than you have
>mean nothing?
I'm sure they mean something. And yes, he has probably been growing irises
longer than I've been alive, as many in the AIS membership have. This,
however, has nothing to do with whether or not one is a qualified and
adequate judge of whether or not an iris deserves to win the Dykes
Medal--for that we have AIS Judges. It's OK to say "I don't like [insert
flower name here]." It is not, however, OK to say "Thornbird is a dog, its
Dykes was undeserved"-in a public forum, no less- when one has no judging
experience. It's irresponsible to *assume* that just because oneself does
not like a particular award-winning hybrid, that that particular flower is
undeserving of awards.
Quote:
>Is the only valid authority to voice an opinion of the worthiness
>of an Iris Judging school? If so how do you account for the fact
>that, with only one year growing Iris, in the Judging schools I
>have attended that I have gotten much higher scores on the test
>than many who are and have been judges for many years ?
I cannot account for your high test scores, Martha. You missed the point.
The only valid opinion as to the worthiness of a cultivar for awards is an
AIS Judge. They make the decisions. Anyone who has a problem with them can
either become a judge or quit the AIS.
>Is this the position AIS endorses?
No, it's my own position. I just don't think it's right for people who
don't know the juding criteria nor HOW TO JUDGE for said criteria to put
down award winners because of personal preference. It promotes disharmony
within the society when those of us who are unqualified appoint ourselves
judges--because what are we judging? It's not the flower...it's the judges
who voted for that flower. That's the kind of behavior you'd expect to see
in a 12th grade classroom, not in a 75 year old institution. And if I could
avoid that behavior in my classes last year, I know y'all can avoid it in
the iris society.
Rusty
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