looking for book recommendations
- Subject: looking for book recommendations
- From: M*
- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:55:45 -0600
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From: "MikeGemelke" <MikeGemelke@email.msn.com>
Hello everyone! After reading iris-talk for about a month, I have developed
a real interest in hybridizing, but want to get a good deep understanding of
the hows and whys before I dive in (I'm an engineer by trade, forgive me).
Can anyone recommend some good books on hybridizing?? I'm interested in the
genetics as well as "practical" information. I'm interested in hybridizing
TB in particular, but books that generalize to other plants would be good
too.
Thanks in advance!
-Mike (zone 4, but soon to be moving to warm and wet zone 7...yeah!!!)
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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in today's digest:
1. TB: CAT: Ghio's black and white introduction
From: linda Mann <lmann@mailhub.icx.net>
2. OT-Summer weather?
From: "Colleen Modra" <irises@senet.com.au>
3. Re: CAT: Bourdillon
From: GardnrJan1@aol.com
4. Re: HYB: What is 'Halation?"
From: Dennis Kramb <dkramb@badbear.com>
5. Re: HYB: What is 'Halation?"
From: Mike Lowe <mlowe@worldiris.com>
6. Re: CAT: Which ones?
From: "Char Randall" <charandmike@email.msn.com>
7. RE: TB: CAT: Ghio's black and white introduction
From: "Mark, Maureen" <markm@tc.gc.ca>
8. Re: TB: CAT: Ghio's black and white introduction
From: "Mike Sutton" <suttons@lightspeed.net>
9. Re: CAT: Bourdillon
From: "Hartman" <rwhdlh@oceana.net>
10. Re: CAT:Bay View
From: "Mike Sutton" <suttons@lightspeed.net>
11. question on irises
From: michelle verville <mickyjonny@yahoo.com>
12. Re: TB: Tales of TRAILS, for the Starlord
From: hipsource@aol.com
13. RE: CAT: Which ones?
From: "Mark, Maureen" <markm@tc.gc.ca>
14. Re: CAT: Bourdillon
From: hipsource@aol.com
15. RE: question on irises
From: "J.F. Hensler" <christyh@povn.com>
16. RE: CAT: Which ones?
From: "Chris Hollinshead" <cris@netcom.ca>
17. Re: OT-CHAT: Need a little help
From: Glenn Simmons <glenn_simmons@juno.com>
18. Re: CAT:Bay View
From: "wmoores" <wmoores@watervalley.net>
19. Re: TB: Tales of TRAILS, for the Starlord
From: "Starlord" <starlord@qnet.com>
20. Re: OT-Summer weather?
From: "Jan Clark" <janclarx@hotmail.com>
21. traveling
From: michelle verville <mickyjonny@yahoo.com>
22. help
From: michelle verville <mickyjonny@yahoo.com>
23. Re: help
From: Nancy Pocklington <npocklington@accunet.net>
24. PCN seedlings in cold zone 5
From: "John Bruce" <jbruce@infinet.com>
25. Re:OT:Bloom Report
From: "Jan Jacobsen" <jacobsen.dorph@get2net.dk>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:05:16 -0500
From: linda Mann <lmann@mailhub.icx.net>
Subject: TB: CAT: Ghio's black and white introduction
Mike Sutton posted a photo to the iris-photos list of STARRING, a new
striking new introduction from Joe Ghio. It's almost a chocolate color
rather than from blue or red violet. Like a white instead of yellow
variegata? Does he give the pedigree on it?
Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
a batch of messages from the weekend and/or Friday must not have made t
to the archives - several threads going that seem to have no beginning.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:20:59 +1030
From: "Colleen Modra" <irises@senet.com.au>
Subject: OT-Summer weather?
Hi all you Aussies
How have you fared over the last few days. We seem to have scored the
highest gauging for the state, by tonight we had had 140mm (prob a bit more
to come overnight) since Saturday afternoon. That more than we'd normally
get in a few days( or weeks) in winter, even. The whole Feb average is 22mm
for Adelaide, prob about 30mm for here
They're promising us 37 C by Friday, everything will steam, Going to have to
get out there ASAP and make sure there is no mulch or anything over the
rhizomes.
This is supposed to be our dry season, today it felt like the tropics. So
much for the driest state in the driest continent
Colleen in SA growing webbed feet and foot rot
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:57:47 EST
From: GardnrJan1@aol.com
Subject: Re: CAT: Bourdillon
In a message dated 2/21/00 3:56:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
janclarx@hotmail.com writes:
<< Did I miss something? This sounds interesting, could Dave, or Janet post
the
address please? >>
Sorry, didn't post address...LARGE DUH! it's simply www.Bourdillon.com
Janet
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:37:26 -0500
From: Dennis Kramb <dkramb@badbear.com>
Subject: Re: HYB: What is 'Halation?"
>From: hipsource@aol.com
>
>Greetings,
>
>I was just looking up something for the Starlord and I ran into a word I
>don't recall having seen before. " Halation" I made an educated guess from
>the context, but then I thought I'd better check the glossary on Mike's
HIPS
>page, where the word was not found, so then I tried the dictionary.
>
>Now here is the check list description, color-wise, of TRAILS WEST
>(Schreiner's 1986) "Auburn brown blend----note correction from previous
post
>where I said autumn---with metallic halation, old gold to brown beard."
>
>Okay, so I hit the dictionary and what do I find in the Random House
College?
>"Halation---a blurred effect at the edges of a light area on a photograph
>caused by reflection of light through the emulsion from the surface of the
>film or plate."
>
>Is this word being used consistently for a specific color effect in irises
>and I've simply not run into it enough to notice it before? Can someone
tell
>me what may be meant here?
>
>Thank you.
>
>Anner Whitehead
>HIPSource@aol.com
a halo effect?
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:52:00 -0500
From: Mike Lowe <mlowe@worldiris.com>
Subject: Re: HYB: What is 'Halation?"
Anner asks...
>I was just looking up something for the Starlord and I ran into a word I
>don't recall having seen before. " Halation" I made an educated guess from
>the context, but then I thought I'd better check the glossary on Mike's
HIPS
>page, where the word was not found, so then I tried the dictionary.
>
>...Is this word being used consistently for a specific color effect in
irises
>and I've simply not run into it enough to notice it before? Can someone
tell
>me what may be meant here?
Doing a search on EVERY iris registered from 1980 to 1999 turns up
two usages of the term. There is no usage after 1986.
I would define it as 'a nonce term that didn't fly.'
SUAVE (Schreiner's R. 1980). Sdlg. I 370-1. TB, 40" (102 cm), EM. S.
buff yellow with blue halation; F. rich purple; old gold beard. D
720-C: ((R 417-A x Edenite) x (P S90-2 x Ruby Mine)) X ((After Dark x
T 96-1) x Margarita). Schreiner's 1980.
TRAILS WEST (Schreiner's, R. 1986). Sdlg. R 725-B. TB, 37" (94 cm),
M. Auburn brown blend with metallic halation; old gold to brown
beard. H 450-P: (B 456-1 x D 393-1: (Coraband x W 1199-1)) X I 855-1:
(F 159-A x D 560-B: (Eternal Flame x B 533-A)). Schreiner's 1986.
Cheers,
Mike, mlowe@worldiris.com -- http://www.worldiris.com
South Central Virginia, USA; USDA Zone 7A
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:45:06 -0700
From: "Char Randall" <charandmike@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: CAT: Which ones?
Martha,
Also being relatively new to purchasing iris, my favorite catalogs have
become Sutton's and Winterberry Gardens for the information they provide and
Schreiner's and Cooley's for the pictures. There are lots of other really
good catalogs and vendors out there but these seem to be the ones I grab
more than others. I've found that most of the commercial sources send you
their new catalogs after you have ordered from them. I would not buy a
Cooleys catalog every year just to see their pictures! Like you, I would
rather spend the money on new iris. I especially like the Sutton and
Winterberry catalogs for their info on the rebloomers. Besides, the Sutton
family seem to be really fine people and I would say that would be my number
one choice.
Remember I am talking about catalogs here, not product. I wouldn't presume
to recommend one source over another, especially on this list. Contact me
privately and I would be glad to share experiences.
Char Randall
charandmike@msn.com
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:10:48 -0500
From: "Mark, Maureen" <markm@tc.gc.ca>
Subject: RE: TB: CAT: Ghio's black and white introduction
Hi Linda,
The picture on the front of the catalogue looks more blue-black to me. He
does list the pedigree but I don't have the catalogue with me. Most of his
pedigrees are fairly complex.
His catalogue is well worth getting. He describes some interesting
seedlings that he will be developing. Good prices on fairly new cultivars
too most of whom have received HMs.
Maureen Mark
Ottawa, Canada (zone 4) -- where if the forecast is to be believed, there
will be many flooded basements by the end of the week
> From: linda Mann <lmann@mailhub.icx.net>
>
> Mike Sutton posted a photo to the iris-photos list of STARRING, a new
> striking new introduction from Joe Ghio. It's almost a chocolate color
> rather than from blue or red violet. Like a white instead of yellow
> variegata? Does he give the pedigree on it?
>
> Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
> a batch of messages from the weekend and/or Friday must not have made t
> to the archives - several threads going that seem to have no beginning.
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:26:25 -0800
From: "Mike Sutton" <suttons@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: TB: CAT: Ghio's black and white introduction
Hi Linda,
yes - unknown but probably from Romantic Evening.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
> From: linda Mann <lmann@mailhub.icx.net>
> Does he give the pedigree on it?
>
> Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:32:59 -0500
From: "Hartman" <rwhdlh@oceana.net>
Subject: Re: CAT: Bourdillon
I found the web site but the catalog was a little vague.Could you please
inform me.Dorothy Hartman zone 6 Sand at the Big Lake.
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From: <GardnrJan1@aol.com>
To: <iris-talk@onelist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-talk] CAT: Bourdillon
> From: GardnrJan1@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 2/21/00 3:56:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> janclarx@hotmail.com writes:
>
> << Did I miss something? This sounds interesting, could Dave, or Janet
post
> the
> address please? >>
> Sorry, didn't post address...LARGE DUH! it's simply www.Bourdillon.com
> Janet
>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:40:52 -0800
From: "Mike Sutton" <suttons@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: CAT:Bay View
Hiya Walter,
We grow them all. George has made the SANTA X HEAVEN cross with the red
thing in mind. DEEP DARK SECRET didn't bloom for us last year but there is
a good amount of increase on it. SEA POWER is going strong right now, off
of one mother rhizome last year we have 9 increases so there should be a
little bloom this year. Can't wait! I am going to cross it with AUTUMN
THUNDER. Woohoo! Your right, I am going to put horns on everything
(actually I like flounces better) and make everything a rebloomer to boot!
Just wait till you see what I have in mind for WILD WINGS and a broken color
SA iris (non plicata breeding). I think I just heard some groans?
How about a DEEP DARK SECRET type of flower with dark spaths and stalk on a
variegated foliage plant (Kathy Guest)? You can tell it's been a long time
since last spring.
Mike
BTW it's scary how you know what I am thinking Walter
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> ROMANTIC EVENING has been used in many of Joe's current crop.
>
> I got RE two years ago from one source and it has not bloomed. Last
> year I got a more vigorous start elsewhere, and it looks good. Has
> anybody on the list bloomed RE?
>
> SANTA, HEAVEN, DEEP DARK SECRET and SEA POWER all are TDF's
> according to their pictures. Does anybody on iris-talk grow these?
>
> Seems to me SANTA X HEAVEN and DEEP DARK SECRET X SEA POWER
> would make good crosses, assuming they are fertile.
>
> I am wondering if Mike Sutton has already made these crosses and I
> would be wasting my time. But, then, I think Mike would put horns on
> these so it would be ok for me to try my hand.
>
> Counting my catalogs, I have received only Joe Pye Weed, Bay View,
> and Keppel's scaled down list.
>
> Walter Moores
> Enid Lake, MS 7/8
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 06:50:47 -0800 (PST)
From: michelle verville <mickyjonny@yahoo.com>
Subject: question on irises
Hi everyone,
Can you all help me with something? I would like to
know the best breeder TB's. I want to start thinking
of good crosses to make but no little about parents.
Thanks
Michelle Verville
Brethren, MI zone 5
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:58:55 EST
From: hipsource@aol.com
Subject: Re: TB: Tales of TRAILS, for the Starlord
In a message dated 2/22/00 2:09:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
starlord@qnet.com writes:
<< wouldn't it be something IF it turned out to be the older one too! >>
I found you a contemporary description, Dennis. From the 1936 Wayman's
catalog:
TRAIL'S END " 38in. A magnificent new blend. S--yellow overlaid soft
orange-red; F--orange-red, with a vivid orange beard. Honorable Mention
American Iris Society 1933."
So, distinguishing it can't be as simple as it would have been had this
thing
been purple, but the form of this would surely be that of an iris fifty
years
older. And, presumptively, no 'halation.'
Anner Whitehead
HIPSource@aol. com
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:17:47 -0500
From: "Mark, Maureen" <markm@tc.gc.ca>
Subject: RE: CAT: Which ones?
For pictures, nothing beats Schreiner's and Cooley's. I like to buy them
every few years not only for the colour pictures but because they are both
fairly large listings of popular iris likely to end up at the show table.
Cooley's collections are also a good buy. Roris is not bad for pictures
either, but some of them are not true to colour.
For rebloomers, I like Sutton's and Winterberry. Both give excellent
information on rebloomers and provide excellent product and service.
Winterberry probably has the most extensive list of rebloomers. No pictures
though. If you like space-agers, then Sutton's is a must. Good colour
pictures too.
Aitken's Salmon Creek is a must have. It's a smaller catalogue with good
colour pictures. Excellent service and product. Their family of
hybridizers have produced many award winning bearded iris and JIs.
Keppel's and Ghio's are great for providing pedigrees and for getting
quality bearded iris that are rather different. Both carry mostly newer
iris. Not many pictures though.
Zebra Gardens is a must read. And for those who like broken colours, it's a
must have. Brad and Kathy have been increasing the colour pictures too.
Nobody has beaten Superstition yet for the size and quality of their
rhizomes. They are also coming out with some interesting cultivars from
their hybridizing program. No pictures (yet) but if you ask nicely, they
will e-mail pictures of their introductions. Prices are very good for newer
stuff, especially those that are only one or two years from introduction. I
guess that their growing conditions allow for better increase.
For JIs, Ensata is a must. Lots of pictures and probably the largest
selection. They also carry many siberians. Their hybridizing specialty is
multitepal cultivars for both JIs and siberians.
For siberians, Joe Pye Weed for the interesting colours they are producing
from their hybridizing program and the colour insert of all their new
introductions. They also carry many of Tamberg's introductions.
Hollingworth is also worth having, but is a smaller catalogue.
I'm sure that I've forgotten some, but I'm also sure that others will pipe
in.
Maureen Mark
Ottawa, Canada (zone 4)
> From: "Martha Brown" <mbrown@pldi.net>
>
> As a relatively new iris enthusiast I have no idea
> which catalogs to pay anywhere from $2.00 to $5.00
> for. I would prefer to spend my money on Iris
> rather than catalogs so which ones are your
> favorites and why?
>
> If you prefer to reply off list you may do so to:
> mbrown@pldi.net
>
> Thanks
> Martha
> M Brown
> NW Oklahoma, USA
> USDA Zone 6b, Sunset Zone 35
>
>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:26:49 EST
From: hipsource@aol.com
Subject: Re: CAT: Bourdillon
In a message dated 2/22/00 1:22:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jcwalters@bridgernet.com writes:
<< Could this be a reference to the supposed tendency of irises that have
been
grown in the same soil for an extended period of time to suppress the
growth of their own kind? Perhaps some of the older types are more virulent
in this respect (?). The reference seems to be to German iris, after all.
>>
Hummm. I read it as cautioning that planting new hybrid varieties with the
older common purples and blues which bloom earlier, by which I understand
pallidas and germanicas, will result in the former being overrun by the
latter with a consequent loss of bloom and subsequent loss of the 'mass' of
the newer irises.
Not that there isn't something in it, of course, if you leave the things
forever, but one does wonder just a bit about the motivation.
Anner Whitehead
HIPSource@aol.com
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:46:21 -0800
From: "J.F. Hensler" <christyh@povn.com>
Subject: RE: question on irises
From: michelle verville <mickyjonny@yahoo.com>
Hi everyone,
Can you all help me with something? I would like to
know the best breeder TB's. I want to start thinking
of good crosses to make but no little about parents.
Thanks
Michelle Verville<<<
Hi Michelle (and anyone else thinking about hybridizing),
There is no magic combination of cultivars that will give you the perfect
iris seedling. If there were, we would have all gotten bored long ago and
gone onto something else.
The best advice I can give is to find plants that come close to what *you*
would like to see in a TB. Keeping a notebook on your plants will help you
focus on the traits you want to cross for. As your notes on what the
seedlings turn out like accumulate, they'll give you valuable information
on which seedlings are bringing you closer to your goal.
One very important thing to keep in mind... Never give up. Even the easiest
irises to cross won't set seed every year and it will likely take more than
a generation until you begin to see the improvements you're after. The
excitement of seeing an iris of yours bloom for the first time will more
than make up for the work and the time involved.
If you're really cut out to be a hybridizer, you'll find more and more
traits you'd like to cross for and you'll discover along the way that
hybridizing doesn't have a finish line.... It's a journey of discovery.
Christy Hensler
Newport, WA
http://www.povn.com/rock/
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:14:39 -0500
From: "Chris Hollinshead" <cris@netcom.ca>
Subject: RE: CAT: Which ones?
Martha and other new iris enthusiasts wondering about iris catalogs;
Know that almost every iris garden that charges for a catalog will refund
the catalog charge upon/with your first order. They will also usually supply
you with their catalogs free of charge in the subsequent years after an
order.
Usually the catalogs which contain color pictures are the ones that charge
for a catalog request. There are many places which do not charge for the
catalog but for the most part these are just listings without the color
reference photos. You may find some internet catalogs to browse for free and
these typically will have available color images of the iris.
Remember that if you do not have at least a couple of nice catalogs to
peruse prior to the season then you will be missing out on a part of irising
that is kind of fun and you do not want to do that! ...and how else will
you know about all those iris that you just have to have! At first (you say
you are just getting involved with iris) I would tend to go for a just
couple of catalogs so as not to be overwhelmed and to be able to appreciate
the irises and the content.
Perhaps a good starter trio of sources that I feel comfortable recommending
would be:
Schreiners: mostly TB iris but mostly great color photos complete with
descriptions which will help to familiarize you with some well known and
reasonably current TB's. Excellent service.
Schreiners
3625 Quinaby Rd. N.E.
Salem, OR 97303-9720
at last check the *full catalog was $5.00.
*( If you are serious about iris is important to get the FULL catalog not
the free mini-catalog.)
1-800-525-2367 and VISA, M/C accepted
Aitken's Salmon Creek Garden: A much wider section of the different types of
iris, color photos. Great selection and excellent service.
Aitken's Salmon Creek Garden
608 NW 119th Street
Vancouver, WA 98685
catalog $2.00 at last check
VISA, M/C accepted
(360) 573-4472
e-mail: aitken@e-z.net
Superstition Iris Gardens: Knowledgeable, wonderful people with very high
quality products.
Superstition Iris Gardens
2536 Old Highway
Cathay's Valley, CA 95306
(209)966-6277
e-mail: randrcv@sierratel.com
Later when you know more about irises you may find special hybridizers that
you like and you will want to get their offerings. Again later, as you may
become an AIS (American Iris Society) member, the AIS quarterly bulletin has
a commercial directory that listing all kinds of iris sources which you may
wish to pursue.
Christopher Hollinshead
Mississauga, Ontario Canada zone6b
AIS(Region 16), CIS, SSI
Director-Canadian Iris Society (CIS)
Newsletter Editor-Canadian Iris Society
E-mail: cris@netcom.ca <c*@netcom.ca>
Canadian Iris Society (CIS) website: http://www.netcom.ca/~cris/CIS.html
Siberian-Species Convention 2003 website:
http://www.netcom.ca/~cris/2003/index.html
Iris-talk info: http://www.netcom.ca/~cris/CIS/iristalk.html
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martha Brown [m*@pldi.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 21:41
> To: iris-talk@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [iris-talk] CAT: Which ones?
>
>
> From: "Martha Brown" <mbrown@pldi.net>
>
> As a relatively new iris enthusiast I have no idea
> which catalogs to pay anywhere from $2.00 to $5.00
> for. I would prefer to spend my money on Iris
> rather than catalogs so which ones are your
> favorites and why?
>
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:47:48 -0600
From: Glenn Simmons <glenn_simmons@juno.com>
Subject: Re: OT-CHAT: Need a little help
>
> You have it for breakfast, hard boiled, fried, scrambled, etc.
> Cheerz, Jan
> ______________________________________________________
>
>
Dennis, Gerry and Jan. Thanks for your help on this brain teaser, we had
no idea. Our boy's teacher gives his class one of these things each
week.
Glenn
Glenn & Linda Simmons
Springfield, Missouri, Zone 6
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:47:49 -0600
From: "wmoores" <wmoores@watervalley.net>
Subject: Re: CAT:Bay View
> From: "Mike Sutton" <suttons@lightspeed.net>
>
>
> We grow them all. George has made the SANTA X HEAVEN cross with the red
> thing in mind.
I think the above cross will be the 'most multiple' cross made to
date.
Next will be the DEEP DARK SECRET X SEA POWER cross.
These will rival the DUSKY CHALLENGER X SILVERADO cross.
Walter Moores
Enid Lake, MS 7/8
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Canopy/2920/
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:03:03 -0800
From: "Starlord" <starlord@qnet.com>
Subject: Re: TB: Tales of TRAILS, for the Starlord
All I can do is hope it wakes up and grows, whatever it is. I checked
it today and so far it is just sitting there. But then we're still in
winter here in the Mojave desert, the hills to either side of the A.V.
have a fresh layer of snow on them and the wind coming down is cold.
I'm watching for a shuttle landing out here maybe today.
The Year is 2259, The Name of the Place is Babylon 5
http://www.whitelakeweb.com/siar
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From: <hipsource@aol.com>
To: <iris-talk@onelist.com>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 7:12 PM
Subject: [iris-talk] TB: Tales of TRAILS, for the Starlord
> From: hipsource@aol.com
>
> TRAIL'S END is a perfectly legitimate name of a TB iris from 1934
for which,
> according to the best info I have here, HIPS does not have a record
of
> survival.
>
> TRAILS WEST is a TB Schreiner iris from 1986, described as an
"autumn brown
> blend." Not old enough to be endangered yet.
>
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:13:12 PST
From: "Jan Clark" <janclarx@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT-Summer weather?
>We seem to have scored the highest gauging for the state, by tonight we had
>had 140mm
Just a lovely light continual rain herefor the last 3 hours, and the same
yesterday morning. It looks like midwinter here, but that's because the sun
isn't up yet. They were suggesting 35 here by Friday. (Promising is not a
word to be used in association with the Met bureau)
Perhaps hoeing around those clumps that look the wettest, might help with
the drainage? All the best for the next few days, and I hope nothing really
important rots for you.
I'd be happy if it stayed like this for a while. I will be out gardening
this morning, even if it is still raining.
Cheerz, Jan
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:27:34 -0800 (PST)
From: michelle verville <mickyjonny@yahoo.com>
Subject: traveling
Hi Everyone,
I am excited to anounce that I will be taking a trip
across the country this summer. My fiancee,Jon, and I
will be traveling by car to Kentucky to visit for a
while and than continue on to California! I want to
go to California so bad because just about every iris
grower is located there. I plan to visit as many as
posible. I told Jon that we will have to get a
trailer to hall all of my new irises. I cant wait!!
Michelle Verville
Brethren, MI zone5
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:42:46 -0800 (PST)
From: michelle verville <mickyjonny@yahoo.com>
Subject: help
Hi everyone,
Can any of you tell me where i can find some old
Keith Keppel Catalogs? Does he have a webpage or
email address? Thanks
Michelle Verville
Brethren, MI zone 5
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:08:51 -0600
From: Nancy Pocklington <npocklington@accunet.net>
Subject: Re: help
Nancy Pocklington wrote at 3:00 Tuesday aft.:<npocklington@accunet.net>
michelle verville wrote:
>
> From: michelle verville <mickyjonny@yahoo.com>
>
> Hi everyone,
> Can any of you tell me where i can find some old
> Keith Keppel Catalogs? Does he have a webpage or
> email address? Thanks
> Michelle Verville
> Brethren, MI zone 5
Hi, Michelle: No, Keith is not online. He and I were kidding each
other about being two of the few remaining BOD contacts that had to
be reached by snail mail. I'll look for a catalog for you; there
might be one here that I picked up at a convention.
Sincerely,
Nancy Pocklington, (Central IL; Zone 9)
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:29:39 -0500
From: "John Bruce" <jbruce@infinet.com>
Subject: PCN seedlings in cold zone 5
In December 1998, I planted nearly 400 PCN seeds. I set the
pots outside in the cold, rain and snow. Last Spring, I had 10 seeds
sprout and grow. I was a little disappointed because I had heard
that PCN seeds germinated readily. The 10 seedlings survived the
hot humid summer in the pots, even growing a bit. I had some room
in the cold frames this past fall, so I just put the pots right back in. My
goal was for some winter hardy PCNs that might survive the summers
as well, so I thought this would be a good test. Very little TLC and let
natural selection do the job.
Well, today it was warm enough to check the cold frames. The frames
were NOT covered with plastic this winter, they simply served to block
the wind. I was amazed to find very robust plants putting on increase,
as well as MANY new sprouts. The temps here have ranged from
15-35 on average at night for the last few weeks, and in January we had
some lows of -15 F to 0F for an extended period. Needless to say, this was
a very pleasant surprise. The seeds were both species and hybrids.
I have no illusions that PCNs will be easy here, or if summer will end the
experiment. Last summer was hot (90F, high humidity) and no seedlings
were lost. Still, this should encourage folks who have always wanted to try
growing PCN to obtain some seed and give them a try.
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John Bruce jbruce@infinet.com
SW Ohio, USDA Zone 5b, Sunset #35
AIS Region 6, SSI,HIPS,TBIS, SIGNA
President, Miami Valley Iris Society
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:32:22 +0100
From: "Jan Jacobsen" <jacobsen.dorph@get2net.dk>
Subject: Re:OT:Bloom Report
Hi all
It has been awhile since I have mailed anything to the list, so I thought it
must be about time.
Here in Denmark we have a very nice and mild winter , without snow and
frost,-it can however come in Marts,-
so many plants are above ground somewhat earlier than usual.
Right now I have Iris hyrcana has bloomed and now fading away,Iris
danfordiae spreads it`s yellow colour in the rockgarden, and others
reticulata hybrids have started to bloom.
Within the next few days the first Juno iris : Iris rosenbachiana open up,
soon the rest of the junos will follow.
Last year I planted a lot of new aril breds, and all have survived the
winter, or whatever it is called, so I look forward to see some nice flowers
in the early summer.
Regarding TB, it has been a dreadful winter, with a awful lot of rain, but
never the less nearly all the new TB from California have made it so far, so
lets see what the summer will bring of pleasant surprises.
Jan jacobsen Zone 4-5 - right now 0C/32F
jacobsen.dorph@get2net.dk
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