Re: REF: Books for New Hybridizer
- Subject: Re: [iris-talk] REF: Books for New Hybridizer
- From: D* K*
- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:28:11 -0500
From: Dennis Kramb <dkramb@badbear.com>
>From: hipsource@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 2/23/00 10:47:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>janclarx@hotmail.com writes:
>
><< >Furthermore, the orientation is not American.
> This is a disadvantage - nein? >>
>
>This is very much a problem.
>
>Aside from the fact that the terminology will cause some bewilderment, on
>page 100 Kohlein says that he uses the classification system of Dr.
>Rodienenko, which is not the classification system used in the World of
>Irises, and while Rodienenko's system is greatly admired by many, it is not,
>to my knowledge, the one officially used by AIS at this point in time. The
>last I heard SIGNA was using Mathew's classification system for Iris species.
>If all this has all changed someone will please correct me here.
>
>Unlike some others, I did not skip right to the hybridizing sections, I
>started at the beginning and then I used it for several years to teach myself
>something about the Genus. Then I found out about other books and other
>perspectives and this book was reevaluated accordingly. When I joined AIS and
>met some people who knew a lot, I was urged to use the book with great
>caution. I pass on that advice.
>
>The problem with this book, or any book for that matter which contains quirky
>and dubious material, is that beginners may not recognize divergencies from
>widely accepted ideas if they are not identified in the text. Spotting these
>has nothing to do with native intelligence, and one can't confer legitimacy
>on spurious material by proclaiming the utility of the book it is printed in.
I'm sorry, but I think you are over-reacting. The book is just fine for a
beginner. It taught me lots of things that other books didn't...
particularly about hybridizing... and that was what Mike's original request
was all about (as is evident from the Subject heading of this message
thread).
Sure, the book has some problems, which you've pointed out, but that hardly
makes it an unfit source of information for the beginner hybridizer. On
the contrary, it's a great place to start.
As for Mathew's vs Rodionenko's classification systems... what relevance
does that have to hybridizing TB's? Very little, I think. I would say
that's far more important to the students & collectors of iris species...
which, unfortunately, few of us are.
As for the orientation not being American??? Again, I fail to see the
significance. Whether in Europe, or Australia, or North America, I'm
fairly certain that pollination is the same the world over. And therefore
any information on hybridizing should be just as valid as any American or
Australian authored book.
Dennis Kramb; dkramb@badbear.com
Cincinnati, Ohio USA; USDA Zone 6; AIS Region 6
http://www.badbear.com/dkramb/home.html
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