Re: MED


From: "Mary Carter Brown" <mccarbrn@janics.com>

Hi Gang!  I am searching for Alta Brown's Caparne winners.  (Not the
Medals).  I also need David Sindt's SKY BABY.  My goal is to  have as many
of the Caparne and Caparne Welch winners as possible.  I lost some in the
last two years.  I have been growing my babies in fairly shallow window
boxes.  I am planning to move them to larger barrels this summer.   Mary  I
would also like to find a source for Pumilla R32B.  I always loved it and it
bloomed with ATROVIOLACEA.
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From: iris-talk@onelist.com <iris-talk@onelist.com>
To: iris-talk@onelist.com <iris-talk@onelist.com>
Date: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:43 AM
Subject: [iris-talk] Digest Number 910


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>There are 7 messages in this issue.
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>Topics in today's digest:
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>      1. Re: Re: OT- Bio - re-introduction
>           From: "Colleen Modra" <irises@senet.com.au>
>      2. HYB: Applying Pollen
>           From: Sharon McAllister <73372.1745@compuserve.com>
>      3. AB:  DESERT DOVE
>           From: Sharon McAllister <73372.1745@compuserve.com>
>      4. Re: Re: Iris to the North Island of NZ
>           From: "heather & bernard pryor" <irishaven@pip.com.au>
>      5. Private - thanks everyone
>           From: John I Jones <jijones@ix.netcom.com>
>      6. AB:  ESTHER, THE QUEEN
>           From: Sharon McAllister <73372.1745@compuserve.com>
>      7. OT;  NEW CATALOGUE
>           From: "Denise Stewart" <stewartd@proaxis.com>
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>Message: 1
>   Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:20:22 +1030
>   From: "Colleen Modra" <irises@senet.com.au>
>Subject: Re: Re: OT- Bio - re-introduction
>
>Hi Sonya
>
>I escaped to Oz about 25 years ago, should imagine you could grow just
about
>any iris in Kawerau, you'd prob be zone 7 or 8, how heavy are your frosts.
I
>now live in the Adelaide hills, considerably less wet than most of the
North
>Island
>
>It's nice to hear from iris growers everywhere, wish I could come back for
>Mt Manganui this Nov, but haven't got the funds and as a commercial grower
>definitely don't have the time in Oct-Nov to go anywhere. What irises grow
>in the Tauranga area, I'd have thought it might be a bit warm over winter
>for even TB, although they'd do well further inland. I imagime LA do
>extremely well.
>
>Colleen Modra
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>From: Sonya <morrigan@world-net.co.nz>
>To: iris-talk@onelist.com <iris-talk@onelist.com>
>Date: Sunday, 27 February 2000 2:44
>Subject: [iris-talk] Re: OT- Bio - re-introduction
>
>
>>From: Sonya <morrigan@world-net.co.nz>
>>
>>Hi
>>
>>Well to those that know me please delete :)  To the new members that don't
>>please read on.
>>My Name is Sonya and I live in New Zealand in the Bay Of Plenty, zone ????
>>
>>I Grow anything that can and will put down multiple roots and grow wild :)
>>Under advise from the Original Iris-L I planted my Louisiana Iris around
>>the backwash area of my pool - no one could have known that they would
>>thrive on chloride and concrete. They have since destroyed the concrete
>>around the path and invaded the deck area but I must admit they are a
>>magnificent sight in full bloom. Then out comes the axe and pick and I
>>remove 75% of them each year, most are given to friends
>>I grow upwards of mm err lets just say lots of Tall/medium/border iris.
>>When I shifted I "conned" several friends into helping and after  8 hours
>>digging up pieces from my Iris plants they quit. Not even the promises of
a
>>large glass of wine could restore my helpers to me.
>>My iris here are mainly of the older varieties  as the new introductions
>>are very expensive here I tend to wait a few years.
>>One thing about  Iris here is to expect the unexpected the colours are
>>different as are heights and some re bloom that are not suppose to -
before
>>you all yell at me even the experts from around the world in other fields
>
>>roses for example) have admitted that something about our climate and soil
>>has "wondrous" effects.
>>I tend to grow all sort of  other plants with my iris and time the flowers
>>so something always has colour. Border iris normally start life in terra
>>cotta pots with Pansy's and Impatiens for company.
>>That is enough for now as I pull on my kevla ( flame proof) bikini
>>thanks to Kath for coaxing me into posting again
>>
>>
>>
>>Sonya aka KiwiLady
>>Kawerau
>>Bay Of Plenty
>>Home of the America's Cup ( Kiwi's 3 -Prada Zip)
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>Message: 2
>   Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:00:43 -0500
>   From: Sharon McAllister <73372.1745@compuserve.com>
>Subject: HYB: Applying Pollen
>
>Message text written by Chris Darlington:
>
>>
>I've heard of placing the pollen on the stigmatic lip , then gently
>squeezing the lip and the style arm to consummate the pollination.  I
>used this technique for the seeds that are germinating for me now in the
>fridge but somebody told me that it wasn't necessary.  compressing the
>pollen on to the stigmatic lip make it more resistant to blowing off in
>the wind.  Just a thought from a fellow beginner.
><
>
>This is another one of those climate-dependent tricks.  I'm sure there are
>conditions under which it isn't necessary, but in hot, windy New Mexico it
>makes a significant difference in the success rate.
>
>Sharon McAllister
>73372.1745@compuserve.com
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>Message: 3
>   Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:12:40 -0500
>   From: Sharon McAllister <73372.1745@compuserve.com>
>Subject: AB:  DESERT DOVE
>
>Message text written by John Montgomery:
>>
>Question: DESERT DOVE appears to be correct in all ways except that it is
>an
>awfully big stretch to describe the beard as orange.  Is it really orange?
><
>
>It is not the bright tangerine-orange often seen on TBs. When it was
>registered we didn't have all of the options for describing beards that are
>on today's form [layered, mixed, graduated from throat to tip, etc.] so
>arilbred hybridizers tended to indicate the color of the tips of the hairs
>on the part of the beard that shows most clearly.
>
>Sharon McAllister
>73372.1745@compuserve.com
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>Message: 4
>   Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:10:39 +1000
>   From: "heather & bernard pryor" <irishaven@pip.com.au>
>Subject: Re: Re: Iris to the North Island of NZ
>
>Colleen Modra said (while replying to Sonya):
>
>
>>>It's nice to hear from iris growers everywhere, wish I could come back
for
>Mt Manganui this Nov, but haven't got the funds and as a commercial grower
>definitely don't have the time in Oct-Nov to go anywhere. <<
>
>I echo those sentiments, Colleen.  Bernard and I have looked at the option
>of going to "the Mount" for the NZIS Symposium from every whichway and
still
>cant substantiate abandoning my iris babies at the busiest time of the year
>to go (but I would LOVE TO BE THERE TOO!).
>
>>>What irises grow in the Tauranga area, I'd have thought it might be a bit
>warm over winter for even TB, although they'd do well further inland. I
>imagime LA do extremely well.<<
>
>
>We have shipped large amounts of La. iris into NZ every year where they are
>sold by that famous mail order company, Bay Bloom of Tauranga.   The plants
>seem to thrive there.
>
>We also have friends who live in Waihi (hence our new La. variety named
>WAIHI WEDDING) and can state that La. iris grow extremely well in the wet,
>humid conditions that are the Bay of Plenty.   TB's don't seem to fare too
>badly (even with the gallons of water that seem to bucket NZ annually)
>because of the porous nature of the soil.
>
>Just a few "gems" to add to the conversation!
>
>Cheers for now,
>Heather Pryor
>irishaven@pip.com.au
>
>Visit our website: http://www.pip.com.au/~irishaven
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>Message: 5
>   Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:35:21 -0800
>   From: John I Jones <jijones@ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: Private - thanks everyone
>
>
>
>Hi Michelle,
>
>Welcome to the list and I am gland to see you posting.
>
>I realize that you are relatively new to iris-talk so please
>take this as a gentle nudge, but I would appreciate it if you would use
>the standard iris-talk subject tags, as described in the welcome
>message, to preface the subject lines of the messages you send to the
>list. For the people who use filters to sort their mail the subject tags
>are critical.
>
>Remember, the format is the tag in ALL CAPS followed by a colon (:),
>followed by your subject. (no space between the subject tag and the colon)
>
>[Subject tag]:[your subject description]
>
>The colon is a very important part of the tag. The standard tags are
>below. You might want to print this for reference.
>
>Thanks
>
>John
>
> TAG    Used For
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>
> TB:    tall bearded irises
> MED:   median and dwarf bearded irises
> AR:    arilbred and aril irises
> SIB:   Siberian irises
> LA:    Louisiana irises
> JI:    Japanese irises
> SPU:   spuria irises
> PCN:   Pacific coast native irises
> BULB:  bulb irises (Dutch, reticulatas, Junos)
> SPEC:  iris species (particularly those not covered in another category)
>
> REB:   reblooming irises
> SA:    space-age irises
> HIST:  historic irises and history of iris development
>
> CULT:  culture
> HYB:   hybridizing
> REF:   references (books and society publications)
> SHOW:  iris shows and related topics
> IRC:   IRC chat sessions (currently Friday nights)
> AIS:   American Iris Society business and issues
> PHOTO: iris photography
> COMP:  iris-related computer topics (record keeping, photo digitizing,
etc.)
> CAT:   iris catalogs and discussion of commercial nurseries
> AD:    iris-related advertisement (ads not related to irises are *not*
> welcome!)
> TRADE: Posts to the list offering trades or looking for a particular iris.
>       Replies to these posts should be made off-list privately to the
>original sender.
>
> OT-PLANTS: other garden plants (not irises)
> OT-ART:    iris-motif art and craftwork
> OT-HUMOR:  iris-related humor
> OT-CHAT:   personal messages and conversation (consider taking it
off-list!)
> OT-BIO:    introduction from a new subscriber (please follow with your
name)
>
>
> ADMIN:    Reserved for list owner
>
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>Message: 6
>   Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:33:48 -0500
>   From: Sharon McAllister <73372.1745@compuserve.com>
>Subject: AB:  ESTHER, THE QUEEN
>
>Message text written by John Montgomery:
>
>>
>Another question:  Are there two plants being sold as ESTHER THE QUEEN?
>For
>many years I grew what I assumed was E the Q when I matched characteristics
>to
>the check list description.  In particular, the falls were a light pastel
>greenish color.  A couple of years ago due to some bad management, I had to
>replace it with a rhizome from the ASI.  What I got was quite different.
>The
>falls were muddy with blotchy brown streaks.  Following year I got a
>similar
>plant from a commercial source.  What surprised me was that a friend who
>has
>been growing ABs since the 50's told me that was the correct E the Q.  I
>was
>not convinced because it didn't match the description as I interpreted it.
>I
>suspected that it may have been E the Q with a case of color breaking
>virus.
>The one which is in bloom currently looks like my old E the Q.<
>
>EQ has been in distribution so long that it's quite possible there are
>imposters making the rounds.
>
>The real EQ does have willow-green falls.  The underside is unmarked except
>for a faint reddish-violet flush along the midrib.  The top side is lightly
>blushed with "Erythrite red", which pales toward the edge so that the
>ground color shows through more clearly there.  The ground color also shows
>through clearly between the stippled markings in the signal area.  The
>beard was registered as black, but in New Mexico's full sun I'd describe it
>as burgundy-black.
>
>The questionable acquisition you describe sounds more like ARAB DUSK, a
>child of EQ which has a heavy overlay of red-brown on the falls and a
>bronze beard.  Side by side, the differences are obvious, but it looks
>enough like EQ to have been mistaken for mama at times.
>
>Of course, I can't make a positive ID from just the description, but AD has
>demonstrated its worth as a breeder so I hope you haven't tossed it without
>testing it!
>
>Sharon McAllister
>73372.1745@compuserve.com
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>Message: 7
>   Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:16:18 -0800
>   From: "Denise Stewart" <stewartd@proaxis.com>
>Subject: OT;  NEW CATALOGUE
>
>Hello Listers
>    I'm fairly new to the list, but not the lurking.  Became a state
inspected, state licensed iris and daylily grower in OR last year
>    If you have a little time and want to check out our newly "we did it"
website please do.
>    Thank you
>
>Denise Stewart
>Snowpeak Iris and Daylily
>Lebanon, OR 97355
>AIS region 13
><http://www.proaxis.com/~stewartd>
>
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