Re: CULT:Spurias for the south


Hi Bill,
I have a question. My mother has a tall beardless iris that is white and yellow. It is as tough as nails, must have full sun, and can be 4 to 4 1/2 feet tall when happy. It blooms well after TB's. And I think mom brought it down from Chicago about 40 years ago. She calls it a Dutch Iris. I have not seen another iris quite like it. Mostly due to its plant size. What is it? It tolerates baked clay and neglect extremely well. But gets taller with water.
Wendy Zone 5 with everything covered in rock hard ice.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Shear 
  To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 6:46 AM
  Subject: [iris-talk] CULT:Spurias for the south


  In response to Walter's question, with the caution that MS is not VA--

  Successful spurias here in central VA:

  ROYAL CADET
  ILA REMEMBERED
  EVENING DRESS
  ORO DE SONORA
  SULTAN'S SASH
  COUNTESS ZEPPELIN
  WHITE OLINDA
  UNIVERSAL PEACE

  and others not yet fully evaluated.

  My spurias came from Chehalem Gardens (Tom and Ellen Abrego) and have
  increased to large clumps.  Tom and Ellen provide really fine rhizomes to
  start with.  I grow them in a heavy clay soil that was amended with lots of
  organic matter--well-composed stump grindings from a local tree service.
  Actually, I just laid about 6" of stump grindings on the surface of the
  clay and planted the spurias in that.  Each spring they get a few inches of
  leafmold as a top dressing, otherwise no other attention.  The exposure is
  a little less than ideal--they get sun for only about 4-6 hours a day,
  partly shaded by a couple of Japanese pear trees and a redbud.  Foliage
  lingers all summer, though by fall is kind of ratty.  There is some foliage
  replacement in fall, but the main growth occurs very rapidly in the spring,
  before blooming.  I have a large collection of older spurias growing out at
  school, which I got from Charlie Brown in Texas.  These have not done so
  well, but got off to a bad start.  I didn't receive them until midwinter
  and potted them up in the greenhouse until planting them out in the
  spring--I think this threw them off and they have not yet recovered.  The
  soil where this latter collection is planted is much more loamy (less clay)
  and was amended by working in an existing mulch of wood chips (much
  rotted).  TBs intermingled at this site thrive.  Full sun and perhaps
  rather drier conditions here.

  In general spurias seem to resent transplantation--the polar opposite of
  the TBs, which seem to like almost annual replanting.  However, the payoff
  is that once they are established, you don't have to do anything but
  provide a few shovels of compost or some similar organic topdressing
  annually for the next 15 years, while the clumps get bigger and bigger.  I
  have one clump of a seedling from SIGNA seed that is now 13 years old,
  nearly 4 ft in diameter, and annually produces 15-20 bloomstalks.  An old
  clump of what looks like I. ochroleuca or something similar has been
  growing in an abandoned garden near my parent's old home in Pennsylvania
  for at least 50 years, without the least attention.

  The role of water in spuria growth is not clear.  Iris spuria, the basic
  species (and several more were involved in today's hybrids) from Europe and
  western Asia, is a plant of wet ground, often even saline marshes. Other
  species like I.ochroleuca and I. monneiri seem to be from, or prefer
  (monnieri has never been found in the wild) dry grassland scrub, and some
  of the west Asian and Turkish species inhabit places that are dry as dust
  all summer, with moisture only available from melting snows.  Others are
  evidently alpine meadow plants.

  Obviously, hybrids with I. spuria genes predominating will handle summer
  moisture and damp soil the best, while those derived predominantly from the
  desert and grassland species will tend to be summer-deciduous.  I don't
  know enough about spuria ancestries to be able to say if this is really
  true.

  Thirty years ago, I would have said that spurias were second only to
  bearded irises in garden potential and popularity.  They seem to have been
  eclipsed by both Louisianas and Siberians and today we read surprisingly
  little about them.
  Why?  They're great!

  How about a "spuria issue" of the AIS Bulletin?


  Bill Shear
  Department of Biology
  Hampden-Sydney College
  Hampden-Sydney VA 23943
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