Re: HYB:Urban Legends
- Subject: Re: [iris-talk]HYB:Urban Legends
- From: P* N*
- Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:05:31 -0600
Tom Burseen has gotten some really wild and beautiful irises by making wide crosses. Of course he has a couple of acres to work with, a lot more room than most of us. I just got his new catalogue.
Pat in Dallas
----- Original Message -----
From: wmoores
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:31 PM
To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [iris-talk]HYB:Urban Legends
> I'll start by offering some of my urban legends that may OR may not be
> true.
> 1) Wide crosses usually produce dogs! I interpreted this
> to
> mean that something like red x white would be a bad choice to cross.
> 2) Selfs produced from plicata & self crosses are usually hafty . . .
> have serious haft marks.
>
>
> Betty Wilkerson from BG KY USA Zone 6
I am not so sure of what a 'wide cross' is. I had the same notion
as expressed by Betty, but after joining the group back in the Dark
Ages, I found out that all crosses outside of a 'line' were 'wide
crosses.' So, the obvious plic x self could be 'wide,' but when you
trace the cross back you could find common ancestors on both
sides of the parentage, meaning your are still in the 'line.' The 'line'
came to mean common ancestors on both sides and/or crossing
the siblings with each other, selfing, or crossing seedlings back to
the parents.
Using the key words of 'wide cross,' you can find this discussion in
the Mallorn Archives.
Back to Betty's question. Yes and no on both. If you grow
thousands of 'wide cross' seedlings, you'll increase the likelihood of
getting something nice (like GREEN AND GIFTED, maybe), but
who has the space and time?
Now, a contradiction. Cheating Heart X Tennessee Woman has
produced a beautiful rimmed bi-color with minimal 'Wench type'
haft markings. The parents are two plics and only four seeds
germinated! Go figger.
Walter Moores
Enid Lake MS USA 7/8 (Dizzied by daff blooms, including a white
narcissus rescued from kudzu on the right-of-way).
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