Re: CULT: Leaf Removal & Soft Rot
- Subject: Re: [iris] CULT: Leaf Removal & Soft Rot
- From: O*@aol.com
- Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:59:23 EST
- List-archive: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris/> (Web Archive)
In a message dated 2/13/2003 11:35:57 AM Central Standard Time,
jbruce1@cinci.rr.com writes:
> In respect to the differences between field and lab conditions,
> most home (inexpensive) pH meters are grossly inaccurate
> and will vary quite a bit. Color test strips and chemical tests
> will also vary widely because of age of solutions, droplet sizes,
> age of test strips, and human factors such as ability to match
> color, contamination, etc.
>
The casual reader of this thread might think we differ greatly on the subject
matter. Like you, I have a strong belief in soil testing. Home soil nutrient
test kits fail miserable here, partly just because I spill stuff and other
times because they are so tedious to use. For garden purposes, I find pH
meter performance accurate enough and accuracy easily tested. All of us
recognize some iris will do better with a change in location where a
different soil pH may be encountered. Too, we agree that more than a few
irises will grow outside conventionally accepted "ideal" pH ranges.
As for measurements-Errors in sampling techniques, collection, and
preparation contribute far more to error in nutrient/pH measurements than do
meter errors. Your procedures/mixing do not indicate lack of attention to
necessary details. In short if we do not collect and prepare a representative
sample we had just as well not collect a sample at all.
Stress is indeed a factor in Erwinia c. susceptibility regardless of whether
it is caused by physical damage, a weakened condition induced by
environmental factors, or gardener induced. As I suspect are genetics.
Weakened plants lack full capacity to defend themselves. Certainly soft rot
can occur anywhere, particularly if we accept the premise that it is
distributed in soils world wide. But still, for the bacteria to manifest
itself in iris rhizomes in a significantly damaging way, conditions must be
conducive for the bacteria's growth.
While the genetic components (arguably it exists) are in the hands of
hybridizers, the factors controlling both Erwinia c. and iris growth are
largely in the hands of gardeners. Of the ones that can be controlled pH is
relatively easy. Suberization of rhizomes is also relatively easy. To some
degree moisture is controllable. Irrigation at times of favorable soil
temperatures for Erwinia c. growth can be avoided. Subsoiling can place
available moisture necessary for the plant (and bacteria) further away from
the rhizome at times when temperatures are most conducive to Erwinia c.
growth. While we not be able to control rainfall, we are remarkably capable
of controlling the vertical and lateral components of drainage. Soil
amendments may be varied to influence moisture retention/removal. Temperature
is controllable to the degree that moisture addition/evaporation and/or mulch
placement/removal might be used to influence it. Insect damage and other
plant stress is certainly controllable to a degree.
The dilemma we face is what level on any factor under our control is most
beneficial to irises and least beneficial for soft rot at a given time of the
year? I expect we will be struggling with this dilemma for some time.
Research under controlled conditions is the only practical way in which we
might hope to separate the various growth factors into meaningful, useful
data for irises. I remain pro controlled research. Both lab and field. For
our gardening observations to have any validity, soil testing is mandatory.
Chlorine dioxide is showing some promise as an effective control outside of
the iris world and perhaps holds promise for us.
Smilin', wonderin' and knowin' that some years ask questions and some years
answer 'um,
Bill Burleson 7a/b
Old South Iris Society
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