Re:Re:HYB: inheritance of LIGHT rims?

No.  Not inhibited.  Absent.  The inhibitor (I) affects the fall overlay as
much as it does the rest of the anthocyanins (other than *some?* of those from
aphylla and related species.  It is very difficult to get the pure white of
Wabash and the few other very pure white ground amoenas.  The Shah Jehan
coloration shows a wash of anthocyanin in addition to one or two doses of Y (I
would think from its appearance) in addition to the fall overlay.  It is a
variegata and a pale neglecta at the same time, I'd say.

Again, no, on the Progenitor factor.  Four doses doesn't give LIGHT rims, it
gives the "Emma Cook" pattern as in many of Fred Kerr's bicolors with the
banded falls.  The light rim on Whole Cloth/Melodrama derivitives is some
factor mixed into the Progenitor mix--and may be from some other source
entirely.

It is possible to be BOTH a Wabash type and a Whole Cloth type bicolor at the
same time, at least if the Wabash type is a neglecta instead of amoena.  I'm
not sure about the pure, full blown amoena (takes four doses of whatever
factor that leaves the anthocyanin out of the standards AND falls, but allows
the fall overlay).  Gordon Plough and others mixed the genetics of the two
types but I don't think he got very far with them.  Toll Gate was such a one,
I think, without checking its pedigree.  Could be wrong.....

Barry Blyth's bicolors have the Pinnacle/Sunset Snows carotene-bicolor
("amoena" by analogy only--no kin to Wabash type) BUT-----we don't know the
full ancestry of these.  Barry's bicolors MAY have a mix of the fall overlay
and the Whole Cloth/Melodrama factors--plenty of ancestry of the latter via
Opal Brown's and Hamblen's bicolors in his pedigrees.  But the Jean Stevens
bicolors (Pinnacle, etc.) may have true amoena factors hidden behind their
dominant "I" white.  I think I read that Barry would get some blue amoenas
from them on occasion, which suggests what I have just speculated.

Enough for now.

Neil Mogensen

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